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NEW Magnetic Basing
« on: December 29, 2011, 03:24:34 PM »
Okay,

i did some customer research a couple of months ago as to what to add next to the magnetic basing ranges.  Some of the suggestions were unfeasible and logistically unworkable when i researched them.

We already had adhesive-backed pre-cut discs and tiles in the most popular base sizes in magnetic rubber.  I looked at what to add to this to fill a gap and 25mm hex were suggested.  Currently GaleForce 9 sell these as a pack of 25 hex bases (bases with magnets in the bottom) and a small sheet of rubber/steel (about 25cm square) for 7.50 but it was hard to find an alternate supplier in the UK.  The main issue i also had with the GF9 system was that it was best used with 'new basing' and didnt offer a way of adding a magnetic basing option to already based figures.  Litko in the US sell a good range of bases and rubber sheet to cut your own but with the threshold for customs charges lowered and the heavy weight involved it wasnt feasible to stock them in.

Excellent, thought the 'non-mummy' part of my brain.  I contacted my supplier for the discs to see what he could offer.  I had to pay for a hex tool to be cut but then it was all systems ahead.

Part of the research also pulled up a gap for a similar product but the metal component rather than magnetic so i contacted my supplier again who had a product called 'Ironflex'. It is adhesive-backed metal strip for when you have a magnetic based figures but no metal surface to attach them to. It has the ferrous component embedded in the rubber so no more sharp edges to slice your fingers with like the steel sheet.  It attracts any north or south or A and B type magnetic tapes. Its nice and thin, only 0.4mm thick so can easily be cut to size/shape with just scissors.  So i thought we would give that a try and went for the same hexagonal dimensions plus 25mm and 50mm diameter discs plus 25mm and 50m wide tape.

I have just done the images for the new codes and hope to have them online in the next 12 hours or so, i have priced them well below GF9 and as they are a trial they are at a lower price than the restock will be.  I would appreciate any feedback once you buy them to see if this area is worth developing further.



« Last Edit: December 31, 2011, 08:46:59 AM by libertee »
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Re: NEW Magnetic Basing
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 06:47:50 PM »
thats really scary.... lots of views but no comments.......  last time i wasn't listened to this much was when i explained to Kieran about what real life entails and that it isnt always fair!

Should i be worried?....lol!
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Re: NEW Magnetic Basing
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2011, 07:02:25 PM »
I just read it and thought, "Nice! Good market niche filler. Never gonna use any." No need for me to comment :)
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Re: NEW Magnetic Basing
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 07:35:55 PM »
 Sally, these look ideal for Elfball players. Might be worth a pimp over at TFF!
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Re: NEW Magnetic Basing
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 10:24:07 AM »
Hi Sally,

I'm using a lot of this magnetic basing, mainly to be able to put my minis in an iron toolbox and bring it to my friends homes.

I tried two of them, pre-cut discs of 0.4mm thick, and rubber tape 1.5mm thick/25mm width (made by 3M).

for me, 0.4mm is too thin for metal mini, it could be ok for plastic/resin but not enough strong to correctly maintain something heavier when moving. The 1.5mm is my definitive choice, and it's easy to cut.

Another interesting point, the adhesive side may unstick as all bases are hollow inside and offer a very small surface to glue. Two solutions for that, first I'm filling larger bases (from 30mm) with resin and I'm adding superglue to ensure a stronger adherence.


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Re: NEW Magnetic Basing
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 10:46:38 AM »
hi Jerem,

i agree that 0.4mm for the magnetic option would be too thin, we use magnetic discs which are 0.75mm thick and hold 80g of mini per sq cm.  we have used them on all of the display figures.  we did have an issue with some we bought in pre-cut from a supplier in the US with the glue not being strong enough but so far the ones we have got from the Uk the glue seems to strengthen and get more sticky the longer they are on.  we use a metal tool box to move our stuff as well (Craig got it for us for christmas last year!)

0.4mm is the ferrous option, i tested it on some standard 25mm based figures (stuck the ferrous discs to the underside of a shelf and attached some based figures (not painted just in case!) and both the adhesive and ferrous component held fine over night, the 50mm monsters were a bit more scary but they held too.  i dont know if i would trust it on larger figures held upside down but as a way of preventing movement in a tray where the figures are upright i would say it is fine.

If you are using a lot of magnetic basing material would you consider putting some to the test for me to see how it works in your situation rather then the test settings i use here?
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Re: NEW Magnetic Basing
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2011, 10:06:33 AM »
ok what should I do ?

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Re: NEW Magnetic Basing
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2011, 01:24:30 PM »
ok what should I do ?

PM me your address and i will send you some to try out and you can let me know their working limitations, if that is okay with you?

Sally :)
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