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: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee June 10, 2012, 04:37:43 PM
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WHEN:

It runs from 1st July 2012 to 1st September 2012



There are 3 designated categories to enter: 

1: Fantasy
2: Modern/Contemporary
3: Sci-Fi


RULES OF ENTRY

1: You must use the female armature HFL503 as a basis for your sculpt. Points will be awarded for how you manipulate the armature, change the pose, convert it, control of putty as well as tool work and attention to detail. The final piece must be recognisable as being derived from HFL503

2: The Final piece must be able to be castable in metal by us. This means you will need to use epoxy putties like Greenstuff or Milliput plus you can add other items like guns or parts of other figures. Fimo is not advised as it can crumble under the pressure exerted on it when a mould is being vulcanised.

3: You must agree that the Final Piece that you submit will be sent to HF for production and you will relinquish all rights to reproduce that piece for personal use or for profit.



WHAT DO YOU GET IN RETURN FOR YOUR HARD WORK?

The winner of each category will get 50 worth of HF vouchers PLUS a resin copy of their winning entry

The runner-up in each category will get 25 worth of HF vouchers PLUS a resin copy of their winning entry

Each entrant who submits a finished piece will receive a metal casting of their figure plus metal castings of each of the winner and runner-up in each category.



HOW DO I ENTER?

Firstly you need to get hold of HFL503. Under UK Gaming Laws we cannot charge you for this.

It is obviously best for us if you can pay for it, however you can also add it free of charge to your normal webstore order by entering the code ARMATURE at checkout. If you choose to purchase the armature for the competition we will add FREE to your order some greenstuff to help you along, just make sure we know by telling us in the 'comments' box at checkout that it is for the competition.

If you just want the armature then email us with your shipping address and we will send it out to you. If you choose this option then please try to enter the competition, we are a small company who cant afford to give away postage costs and armatures to people who just want something for free and who have no intention of entering the competition. I am all for frugality but if that is your intention then that is just tight!

Keep an eye on the Facebook page or here for further information that you might need including image sizes and sending in your entries.

Good luck !



Sally & Kev
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso June 10, 2012, 05:20:10 PM
I'm in :)

I've just put an order in for 5 so I plan on using one of them for my competition entry and the rest for Grymn (chop-chop-choppity-chop :) ).

I am planning on an un-armed weapon of mass destruction for my competition entry :) (sci-fi, of course).

BRING IT ON!!!!

(I've put a note in the order... I have plenty of Green Stuff so please don't send me any).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: akka69 June 10, 2012, 05:42:05 PM
I'm in :)

I've just put an order in for 5 so I plan on using one of them for my competition entry and the rest for Grymn (chop-chop-choppity-chop :) ).

So am I!!!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Patrick Lefevre June 10, 2012, 06:08:45 PM
I'm giving it a go too, just ordered the armature  :boing:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso June 10, 2012, 06:17:04 PM
So akky, you are going to be using some to make Grymn with as well?

... Hmmm... interesting...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: alrith72 June 10, 2012, 06:34:55 PM
Can't see it anywhere but can we enter more than one category or the same category more than once? Just checking before i place my order  :smile:
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: voltan June 10, 2012, 07:10:47 PM
hehe, just had a good idea for this but know I've not got the skill to pull it off, fnar.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso June 10, 2012, 07:20:17 PM
I am almost tempted to sculpt a banana lady to go with the banana Kev that Grekky sculpted for the last compy.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Brandlin June 10, 2012, 07:20:21 PM
:(

Not for me. Can't sculpt for toffee.

I've been very up for more DOD competitions but it's not run for the last two years, and the one I did come second in, I never got the prizes for!


:(
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee June 10, 2012, 08:14:37 PM
Can't see it anywhere but can we enter more than one category or the same category more than once? Just checking before i place my order  :smile:

i hadnt thought about that, but in past competitions people have entered in more than one designation and more than one figure so i guess it is fine!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: akka69 June 10, 2012, 08:28:28 PM
Can't see it anywhere but can we enter more than one category or the same category more than once? Just checking before i place my order  :smile:

i hadnt thought about that, but in past competitions people have entered in more than one designation and more than one figure so i guess it is fine!

Excellent!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft June 10, 2012, 08:32:11 PM
I'm in! (registered just to say that, too  :lalala:)

Bagged enough armatures to enter all 3 categories and still have a couple spares :D

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: beefcake June 10, 2012, 09:08:52 PM
I'll be in also. I've got some holidays coming up in 3 weeks time so I'll have some time then.  :woohoo:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: alrith72 June 10, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Can't see it anywhere but can we enter more than one category or the same category more than once? Just checking before i place my order  :smile:

i hadnt thought about that, but in past competitions people have entered in more than one designation and more than one figure so i guess it is fine!

Cool, thanks Sally. Order is in  :smile:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Patrick Lefevre June 10, 2012, 09:21:57 PM
Not for me. Can't sculpt for toffee.

I can't push putty either even if my life depended on it but that won't stop me from trying  :lmao:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Hasslefriesian June 10, 2012, 11:34:13 PM
I've been very up for more DOD competitions but it's not run for the last two years, and the one I did come second in, I never got the prizes for!

 :eh:

?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: gi6ers June 11, 2012, 04:33:16 PM
I've been very up for more DOD competitions but it's not run for the last two years, and the one I did come second in, I never got the prizes for!

 :eh:

?

Yeah I think Andy might've been too skint to get the hats/t-shirts done for us.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: freakinacage June 11, 2012, 05:33:46 PM
Andy, skint? Now we know you are lying!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Whitehorn June 11, 2012, 09:45:06 PM
Can we enter more than 1 category (multiple entries) ?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: leadhead June 12, 2012, 02:22:21 AM
Can't see it anywhere but can we enter more than one category or the same category more than once? Just checking before i place my order  :smile:

i hadnt thought about that, but in past competitions people have entered in more than one designation and more than one figure so i guess it is fine!

Sally says yes.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Whitehorn June 12, 2012, 09:14:50 AM
Thanks, I did flick through the other posts, so must have missed that one!

One month per entry shouldn't be too hard.

He says...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: bandit86 June 12, 2012, 12:01:25 PM
Can you swap heads?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: mcfonz June 12, 2012, 04:14:39 PM
Is the start date the date entries are allowed to be entered from?

Looks like one I will be entering I think. If I can get my bottom in gear that is.

Hmmm. When is the metal barbarian girl likely to see release?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: TheBucklandBrewer June 12, 2012, 04:36:20 PM
Am I reading this correct?
Each entrant will get a metal casting of his/hers own figure + castings of the winners?

Isn't there a specific standard to reach then?
I mean... that's like 7 metal castings in change of a free armature with a green 'blob' stuck on... (not that I think anyone would be so rude to play it that way.. but... you never know... you might have to make moulds for a lot of ... errr  :? (if I enter that is of course  ;)  ) ?

Suberb though!! I'll be ordering a few more armatures now (I should have waited two days longer with my order... *grin*)!

Oh, just to make sure... is "steampunk" considered as part of the fantasy-range?

Thanks!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Avicenna June 12, 2012, 05:11:53 PM
I've been very up for more DOD competitions but it's not run for the last two years, and the one I did come second in, I never got the prizes for!

Nevermind... look on the bright side, at least you have your diorama - you might not have done it if the competition wasnt there
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bewildered Badger June 12, 2012, 06:32:38 PM
I've just ordered five, though I don't anticipate producing anything suitable. Still, it might be fun.
I presume though that when it says you can use guns and parts of other figures, we are talking HF products only. :twisted:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso June 12, 2012, 08:31:13 PM
Am I reading this correct?
Each entrant will get a metal casting of his/hers own figure + castings of the winners?

Isn't there a specific standard to reach then?
I mean... that's like 7 metal castings in change of a free armature with a green 'blob' stuck on... (not that I think anyone would be so rude to play it that way.. but... you never know... you might have to make moulds for a lot of ... errr  :? (if I enter that is of course  ;)  ) ?

Suberb though!! I'll be ordering a few more armatures now (I should have waited two days longer with my order... *grin*)!


That is the beauty of this competition... it gives people the chance to do their best and get a metal copy of their own work.

It is about having a go and enjoying the competition... not about winning at all costs... 

I would suggest that if you entered 5 sculpts of your own, you would get your casts plus one set of winners.

I would hope that the judges decision would look harshly against people trying to take the mickey just to get free metal... this is a community after all (and not a den of unscrupulous cads).

As for quality, here's the last results... make your own mind up:

http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?category=miniatures~dress%252da%252dkev
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: TheBucklandBrewer June 13, 2012, 06:41:16 AM
Oh, wow, some pretty nice stuff there!
I had seen the category in the catalog (in my search for pretty lasses), but didn't have the slightest idea what it was about... :oops:

The best prize is always the experience, new tips and tricks and techniques you learn during competitions like these. I've never tried a sculpting competition before, but I'd like to try for sure! :-)

Oh, and it's not only the beauty of the competition itself, but it must be the beauty of the entire community I guess! Thumbs up!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bergil June 13, 2012, 01:24:24 PM
Look forward to giving it a go.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Toosh June 13, 2012, 01:54:41 PM
<snip>
I've been very up for more DOD competitions but it's not run for the last two years, and the one I did come second in, I never got the prizes for!   :(

There are plenty of other comeptitions you can enter, rather than waiting for the next DOD (which I expect will be a rather long wait). We ran a Hasslefree comp over on Platoon Britannica and advertised it here and right now there is a huge Wamp competition. So get your sorry butt over there and enter a diorama! :p
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: caerban June 13, 2012, 02:25:28 PM
It's about time for me to say "I'll give it a go!" and never get around to doing anything about it isn't it? :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Avicenna June 13, 2012, 02:29:15 PM
I might even try this one...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ironmammoth June 13, 2012, 04:06:20 PM
Just tried to order some of the armatures and their bloody well out of stock!!!! :blub:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso June 13, 2012, 05:12:34 PM
I have just tried to order some of the armatures and they're bleeping well out of stock!!!! :blub:

More stock in on Friday (info from Facebook).

(Edited your quote to make it better... grammar & curse-words ;)  :twisted:).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: shinobi June 14, 2012, 02:37:11 AM
Might give this a go, though I've never tried sculpting. Looks like I have to wait to order the armatures..... need to see if my kids want to have a go at this....... that would be....... interesting LOL  :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: DRAGON June 14, 2012, 07:21:13 AM
Been meaning to have a go at this sculpting lark - I mean how hard can it be.......?  :lmao
I have only ever used greenstuff for filling and repairs but I do have an idea for the armature so maybe I will give it a go  :thinks:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: TheBucklandBrewer June 14, 2012, 12:10:59 PM
Got a few more questions (sorry)...

I read on facebook about plasticard not being allowed because it melts in the mold-making.
So that means the molds you make are in metal?
Do you know of any other epoxy's or sculpting stuff that are allowed (or not), such as Instant Putty, Sculpy, Brown Stuff, Grey stuff,  ... ?

Also, are there any limitations in size to keep it castable?
(e.g. if you would add a banner, how huge can it be? or if you give her wings, how wide can it max be?)
(Not that I plan to (try to) make a 25-components version that would need a dozen of molds in total though...).

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bergil June 14, 2012, 01:15:52 PM
Got a few more questions (sorry)...

I read on facebook about plasticard not being allowed because it melts in the mold-making.
So that means the molds you make are in metal?
Do you know of any other epoxy's or sculpting stuff that are allowed (or not), such as Instant Putty, Sculpy, Brown Stuff, Grey stuff,  ... ?

Also, are there any limitations in size to keep it castable?
(e.g. if you would add a banner, how huge can it be? or if you give her wings, how wide can it max be?)
(Not that I plan to (try to) make a 25-components version that would need a dozen of molds in total though...).

If you use plasticard, you can go to resin first. Then use those casts to go to metal.

I think... Bl**dy well hope so actually....
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Avicenna June 14, 2012, 01:36:51 PM
You can do, but I think that will increase the cost of producing the models
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: caerban June 14, 2012, 01:43:14 PM
Got a few more questions (sorry)...

I read on facebook about plasticard not being allowed because it melts in the mold-making.
So that means the molds you make are in metal?
Do you know of any other epoxy's or sculpting stuff that are allowed (or not), such as Instant Putty, Sculpy, Brown Stuff, Grey stuff,  ... ?


I'm fairly certain it's just the standard rubber mould-making process but as I recall the moulds vulcanise at high pressure and temperature.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso June 14, 2012, 04:20:25 PM
From what I gather, the 'straight to metal' approach is the way HF will go so using plasticard, too much super glue and other stuff that can't cope with the heat/pressure of vulcanisation will not work.

Just bear in mind that this is a boutique company, with limited funds and you will soon realise that getting stuff 'double cast' is just too expensive.

I use brass wire, Green Stuff and a tiny dab of superglue and that will be OK for casting. Brown stuff, Milliput, and epoxy putties generally would be OK but that is as far as my knowledge goes.

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: C_M_Minis June 14, 2012, 05:18:44 PM
I wish i was any good at sculpting past basic levels  :roll:  still i might give it a try when stocks are back.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: hobbesgoblin June 16, 2012, 11:38:42 PM
It's about time for me to say "I'll give it a go!" and never get around to doing anything about it isn't it? :D

I was just thinking the same for myself...

I'd also like to echo the earlier question about which category "steampunk" might fall into ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso June 17, 2012, 10:50:32 AM
Steam punk would probably go into Fantasy (like Warmachine). It is old school with techno-magic so fantasy sums it up better than sci-fi (like John Carter of Mars... very much more fantasy than sci-fi).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: hobbesgoblin June 17, 2012, 12:35:01 PM
"It is old school with techno-magic"

I'm more of a "its retro sci-fi" (Verne, Wells, Unhallowed Metropolis) school myself.

Still, upon re-reading at a more sensible hour and with less bleary eyes, it looks like Libertee has ok'd more than one entry into a category, so it wont clash with my other sci-fi and fantasy ideas.

Now I just have to deliver!  :whip:

Can't see it anywhere but can we enter more than one category or the same category more than once? Just checking before i place my order  :smile:

i hadnt thought about that, but in past competitions people have entered in more than one designation and more than one figure so i guess it is fine!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: somaticon June 18, 2012, 12:02:24 PM
I might enter this.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ballistic_bro June 18, 2012, 02:09:11 PM
I think I might have a go aswell. Not sure what the results will be, but hey-ho, nothing ventured, nothing gained! :smile:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: freakinacage June 18, 2012, 06:27:15 PM
Damn, I snapped
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: akka69 June 18, 2012, 08:01:16 PM
According to the tracking reference I will catch my female armature tomorow. I'm going to push putty, push putty, push putty, I'm going to push putty, during all week long!.....
 :woohoo:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: caerban June 19, 2012, 12:13:20 AM
It's about time for me to say "I'll give it a go!" and never get around to doing anything about it isn't it? :D

I was just thinking the same for myself...

I'd also like to echo the earlier question about which category "steampunk" might fall into ;)

Dude are you doing your missus' character from our game? Coz that was my idea! :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Ben Brownlie June 19, 2012, 01:37:51 PM
Damn, I snapped

Cos you're too skinny
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: freakinacage June 19, 2012, 06:03:14 PM
Quiet fat boy!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: hobbesgoblin June 19, 2012, 07:59:23 PM
It's about time for me to say "I'll give it a go!" and never get around to doing anything about it isn't it? :D

I was just thinking the same for myself...

I'd also like to echo the earlier question about which category "steampunk" might fall into ;)

Dude are you doing your missus' character from our game? Coz that was my idea! :)

I hear tell that the Pope is a Cat-a-holic...  :paranoid2:

Thats one of my idea's, and if only one of the 5 in my head gets done I hope it'll be that one, but don't let that stop you - more steampunk kick-assery is always better than less ;)

Also, my armatures are in the mail  :angel:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: caerban June 19, 2012, 08:47:10 PM
It's about time for me to say "I'll give it a go!" and never get around to doing anything about it isn't it? :D

I was just thinking the same for myself...

I'd also like to echo the earlier question about which category "steampunk" might fall into ;)

Dude are you doing your missus' character from our game? Coz that was my idea! :)

I hear tell that the Pope is a Cat-a-holic...  :paranoid2:

Thats one of my idea's, and if only one of the 5 in my head gets done I hope it'll be that one, but don't let that stop you - more steampunk kick-assery is always better than less ;)

Also, my armatures are in the mail  :angel:

Ordered my 3 last night too, ya cheeky wee scunner ;)
I've only got a month too. I'm in the House o'Doom for all of August!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Patrick Lefevre June 22, 2012, 06:25:14 PM
Got my 'victim' today.
Is it ok to make it multipart? I got a bit of an idea  :horror:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Patrick Lefevre June 24, 2012, 01:52:21 PM
I starded working today on my entry, at first I wanted to do a dryad in the midst of transforming from tree to human form but seeing the size of the mini and my low sculptingskills it was a no-go.
Instead I opted to do a spidertaur or censpider or whatever you call an eight-legged animal with a human torso attached to it.
Since it's a female I based her on the infamous Black Widow spider so no big, fat hairy creep but a sleek and mean looking nasty.
It all goes surprisingly well, sculpting wise that is.
There's one tiny detail about me: I'm arachnophobic but the fact that I hop around the livingroom shivvering and emitting sounds of disgust regularly means that I'm on the right track of things  :dance:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: SAbel June 27, 2012, 04:32:05 AM
Hello from the states :)
I am interested in the competition, do you know when you will have more HFL503 female Armatures in stock, any idea what shipping cost to the USA would be. Do the finished works need to me mailed/recieved before Sept 1st or just have pictures sent in and then the winner(s) are mailed to you.

On a seperate note, Do you go to GenCon (in the US) I know that Mantic has been coming here for years now, I would just like to know if you had planned on a trip over for the con. There are several items I would like to see before I purchase.

Thank you for your time,

Sean
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake June 27, 2012, 06:08:08 AM
Aargh, just went to the site and no armatures available. If I make a purchase and put in the code ARMATURE would you be able to hold onto the order until they are in stock just so that I make sure to get one. I'd rather pay you for it though. Could I perhaps purchase something else that is 2.50+ and then when you get the armatures in stock send the order on instead of the other item? Or is that too much mucking around?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso June 27, 2012, 07:13:38 AM
I have been told that more casts should be available today.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee June 27, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
Can you swap heads?

yes if you want to.

Is the start date the date entries are allowed to be entered from?

the closing date is when i want to see images sent over, over the summer holidays it is pretty chaotic here and i wouldnt want things to get lost.  i will create a new email address for the entries to go to and post it nearer the time.

Hmmm. When is the metal barbarian girl likely to see release?
just waiting for resin masters for 'Veda Ann' or did you mean 'Delphine?

Am I reading this correct?
Each entrant will get a metal casting of his/hers own figure + castings of the winners?

Isn't there a specific standard to reach then?

we have never had this question pop up before, usually the standard is pretty good and we have never had anyone enter just for the free castings...i think most poeple would be to embarrassed to try this as they know we dont have a lot of spare money to throw away.

I mean... that's like 7 metal castings in change of a free armature with a green 'blob' stuck on... (not that I think anyone would be so rude to play it that way.. but... you never know... you might have to make moulds for a lot of ... errr  :? (if I enter that is of course  ;)  ) ?

it is one of the downsides to the competition i suppose but as the standard is usually very high we have never had this issue or even a suggestion of this issue before.

Oh, just to make sure... is "steampunk" considered as part of the fantasy-range?

points will be given for how characters integrate with our current ranges.  i think i answered this somewhere else but i am so tired i cant remember what i said!

I might even try this one...
that will be interesting!

Just tried to order some of the armatures and their bloody well out of stock!!!! :blub:
we are restocking on them each week at the moment.  when i allocated the moulds i anticipated people choosing to enter maybe 1 or 2 categories however they are being ordered in quantities of between 4 and 9 which meant the stock i had disappeared overnight.  I am collecting some more this week and have popped her into another mould

I read on facebook about plasticard not being allowed because it melts in the mold-making.
So that means the molds you make are in metal?

the moulds are in rubber.  to form the cavity the sculpt is placed between two rubber discs and put under pressure and heat for a period of time.  the rubber melts and takes the shape of the sculpt.  Plasticard will bend and warp in the mould as it is heated which means the resulting cavity will be un-usable and the sculpt destroyed.

Do you know of any other epoxy's or sculpting stuff that are allowed (or not), such as Instant Putty, Sculpy, Brown Stuff, Grey stuff,  ... ?

Fimo can crumble in the mould, most epoxys are okay

Also, are there any limitations in size to keep it castable?
(e.g. if you would add a banner, how huge can it be? or if you give her wings, how wide can it max be?)
(Not that I plan to (try to) make a 25-components version that would need a dozen of molds in total though...).

We use 9" rubber moulds.  the figure cannot be more than 2cm deep ideally.  we price figures based on what proportion of the mould they use.  we can divide the mould into 16 'unit allocations'.  a singel-piece figure will use 1 allocation, multi-piece can use 2 or 3.  to maximise the profit from a mould ideally sculpts need to be single units as if we use up more than 1 unit then we have to price it accordingly and this can price the sculpt out of the reach of what people might be prepared to pay, especially for a competition entry.


: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee June 27, 2012, 10:46:31 AM
Hello from the states :)
I am interested in the competition, do you know when you will have more HFL503 female Armatures in stock, any idea what shipping cost to the USA would be. Do the finished works need to me mailed/recieved before Sept 1st or just have pictures sent in and then the winner(s) are mailed to you.

just pictures to come to us by September 1st.  I will post image requirements nearer the time with the email address specifically for the competition

On a seperate note, Do you go to GenCon (in the US) I know that Mantic has been coming here for years now, I would just like to know if you had planned on a trip over for the con. There are several items I would like to see before I purchase.

sorry, no, it is too far for us to go as much as we would love to come over.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee June 27, 2012, 10:49:49 AM
Aargh, just went to the site and no armatures available. If I make a purchase and put in the code ARMATURE would you be able to hold onto the order until they are in stock just so that I make sure to get one. I'd rather pay you for it though. Could I perhaps purchase something else that is 2.50+ and then when you get the armatures in stock send the order on instead of the other item? Or is that too much mucking around?

Just loading some more up.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Revliss June 28, 2012, 03:15:30 AM
ok  i  just  order 3  armatures and a bunch  of  metal balls ..  i just  can't  order  the  armatures with  out  really  buying  any thing  that  just  feel  so  wrong... i  am  going enter all 3  categories.. lest  just  hope  the  armatures get to me  on  time .. i  will  try  hard  not  to  disappoint any  one  with  my  sculpting skill ( emm green stuff  me shiver ) my reputation  is  on the line  :metoo:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: gi6ers June 28, 2012, 04:48:01 AM
ok  i  just  order 3  armatures and a bunch  of  metal balls

 :shock:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Revliss June 28, 2012, 05:17:41 AM
ok  i  just  order 3  armatures and a bunch  of  metal balls

 :shock:

emm that not what i going to use  it for i am crazy/lazy but that not it
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft June 28, 2012, 12:47:34 PM
Hello from the states :)
I am interested in the competition, do you know when you will have more HFL503 female Armatures in stock, any idea what shipping cost to the USA would be. Do the finished works need to me mailed/recieved before Sept 1st or just have pictures sent in and then the winner(s) are mailed to you.


Not entirely sure but I think there are rules about entering competitions from outside the hosting country. Could be talking crap, but I've seen US companies refuse UK entrants to contests because of such rules. Might wanna have a looksy to be on the safe side.
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: beefcake June 28, 2012, 09:04:30 PM
Might be true but hasslefree are a nice friendly company and inclusive of everyone. They would have stated otherwise in their competition rules, I'd imagine, as the FOD is made up of people from many different countries (although largely the UK)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft June 28, 2012, 09:16:05 PM
Aye, but that doesn't mean they know all the rules! I'm just trying to help them avoid trouble. It doesn't matter how nice you are, the rules still apply :( And if I understand correctly, these aren't contest rules but something more serious. May be wrong, just offering a heads up based on what I've seen elsewhere.
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: Steel Penguin June 28, 2012, 09:37:04 PM
well ive ordered 4 dollies...... theyll go in the lead pile with everything else till insperation hits...... :shrug:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: mcfonz June 29, 2012, 10:12:32 AM
I might add one to an order this evening.

It's going to take a lot for me to do one let alone 2,3 or 4. Especially to a standard that would be worth you guys wanting to cast.

I would feel guilty ordering more and having them still sitting there unworked upon once the competition closes.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: BushiArtist July 01, 2012, 10:56:55 PM
I'm planning on getting 3, knew I should have ordered a few days ago though, hopefully I'll be able to order some soon, got a few ideas for each category but the one I'm most interested in might take some time to do justice, especially seeing as most of my sculpting has been little bits.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Pleasurepain July 04, 2012, 12:39:34 AM
Any more on order? They've all gone again.  :(
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake July 04, 2012, 03:42:45 AM
Glad I got my couple then. Should arrive any dat now. So many ideas in so little time!!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso July 04, 2012, 08:24:41 AM
I think that the competition start / finish dates should be delayed for a few days so that everyone has an equal time to compete. Once stock is available normally, then the competition should start.

It will save any perceived unfairness being mentioned.

I only need a few days for mine but I'm sure there are people who need every second they can get.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake July 04, 2012, 09:03:24 AM
Some people have already started. I'll get through mine pretty quickly as well especially as I have a week and a half off still.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso July 04, 2012, 12:17:21 PM
Mine arrived minutes ago :mrgreen:.

Thanks Sally and co for sorting it out :).

Should be fun :)
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: alrith72 July 04, 2012, 03:01:43 PM
Just got mine. Time to join the fun  :smile:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bewildered Badger July 04, 2012, 05:49:06 PM
 :metoo: Yes, mine arrived this morning. Thanks to all at Hasslefree!
Now, let's see how many will be ruined in my ham fisted attempts to turn vision into reality.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft July 05, 2012, 03:03:36 PM
Still haven't got mine :'( ordered on 10th of june too
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mabus July 07, 2012, 09:12:33 AM
Just put in an order.

I have at least one solid idea. Now I just need to come up with two more.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso July 07, 2012, 10:58:07 PM
I'm just sculpting one and I have started her today... she definitely looks...

...started :mrgreen:!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee July 07, 2012, 11:04:43 PM
Still haven't got mine :'( ordered on 10th of june too

that is a bit weird, we are only backlogged with armature orders going back about a week /10 days now.  Anything ordered on the 10th June would have shipped a long while ago.  PM me your order number and i will check it out for you

its okay, i did a search and located the order number.  i cant check on anything until i get into the office on tuesday though as we dont keep order books at home.  I will get it sorted for you

Sally :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft July 08, 2012, 10:38:46 AM
Thanks Sally ^.^

I dropped you a couple of emails last week but guess they didn't get through. Bummer.

Hopefully its not just that my postie nicked off with the parcel so HE can enter =/
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Glorioski July 09, 2012, 01:03:01 AM
Hello. I check Hasslefree's website from time to time and this competition caught my eye. If I bought one of the armatures now would it be sent out in time for me to enter or does the backlog mean I've missed the boat?

Scott
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin July 14, 2012, 09:22:19 PM
Right.  got my order this morning.
first version is on the bench  Just one question  superglue is ok ? isnt it?  if it isnt what can i use to stick bits together, ( please , please let superglue be ok, i hate having to mix pin head size blobs of epoxy just to glue a gun onto a hand)
then all i have to do is figure out how to post pictures here...   ( best yosamity sam voice) " i hates tecnology i does"
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mr Teufel July 15, 2012, 01:46:05 AM
...
then all i have to do is figure out how to post pictures here...   ( best yosamity sam voice) " i hates tecnology i does"
Here's one I prepared earlier:


1) Create an account with an image site such as Photobucket. (http://photobucket.com/)

2) Upload images to Photobucket using the green "Upload" button.

3) Each uploaded image will have a few different address codes ("url's") in a box next to them. Copy the "direct link" code.

4) On this site, select Post Reply or Create new Thread.

5) In the bunch of formatting icons ('B' for bold, 'I' for itallics etc) you'll find a little square 'picture' on the button in the row below the "B"

6) This creates tags in your text field that look like "[img ]http://[/img ]"

7) Paste your image's address in between the tags: "[img ]http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/123/mrteufel/546_large.jpg[/img ]"

8) Press 'Post'

Note that I put spaces in the tags so they'll be visible in my instructions. Quote this post to see the tags around the image below:

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc153/mrteufel/IronMan.jpg)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake July 15, 2012, 03:26:16 AM
Are we able to use components from other HF miniatures or does it have to be completely original?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin July 15, 2012, 08:18:00 AM
 :metoo:   or do i have to strip the assult rifle off for this reason or the superglue reson?...  :nah:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft July 15, 2012, 08:39:04 AM
They say somewhere around the first post that you can use parts of existing models so long as the result is recognizeably based on the armature.

Also, for the obvious infringement reasons, those existing parts would definitely need to be Hasslefree!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake July 15, 2012, 09:12:48 AM
Thanks for that Possum, I probably should have re-read the first post before asking stupid questions :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bewildered Badger July 17, 2012, 12:39:16 PM
Oh, I am so glad to see that the deadline has been extended to 1st September...
I'm not sure it'll make any difference though. How the hell do you get putty so thin? I was trying to give my figure a belt, it just sits there like a wide metal ring around the torso. Attempting to press it down just cause it to spread randomly into blotches, or rip. Rather frustrating.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft July 17, 2012, 02:02:54 PM
I thought it was always 1st September =/ didn't get mine till 12th July anyway, so I'm behind whatever the score xD


Badger, I don't know how much help I can be, only newly learning sculpting myself, but I can offer a few tips!

1) Don't press! Never press! Wipe the greenstuff with a very well lubricated tool. Just wipe it with very minimal pressure - lots of wipes are better than pressing or using too much pressure.
2) keep your fingers and tools wet or lubricated so you don't stick to the greenstuff
3) work in small sections and don't try to do too much at once. It really sucks when you spend half an hour doing one part, move on, then stick a big gnarly thumb right into the bit you just did.
4) patience is your best friend, really. If you get frustrated wander off and kill something. It works for me - do a bit of sculpting, decide it's crap and start over. Do it again, then go play COD till the murderous red rage subsides....

Oh! and a golden tip:

GreenStuff does NOT set in the freezer. If you mix up too much, baggy the excess and plop it in the freezer till you're ready to use it.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bewildered Badger July 17, 2012, 04:16:35 PM
Thanks Possum, I'll try to keep that in mind.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: SAbel July 17, 2012, 06:29:51 PM
Well I am still waiting to recieve my aramtures so the extended dead line is very much appreaciated for me, still hoping to get them before this weekend :)

On other notes:
 1. Will the orginal sculpts be returned after casting or do we only recieve a copy of them?
 2. will Hasslefree make the casting cuts (if they need them) or should the sculptor do that, plus if we think that it may need to be cut should or could we send in photos of the piece before to have advice on that.
 3. Everything is cast or is it only the winning sculpts?

Good luck to everyone, there is some great stuff being posted as WIP.

Sean
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso July 17, 2012, 07:49:00 PM
The original sculpts are unlikely to be returned... the casting process can be a tad detrimental to them (so they will never be able to say that all of the entries would survive... so better not to return any for fairness).

Last time ALL of the sculpts were cast and we all got a set of the entries... I would suggest that this time around it will be similar.

I would suspect that Kev will look at the pics and decide whether they need cutting and let you know so that you can decide between you, who makes the cuts (not everyone has the right kit for chopping up their minis).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: alrith72 July 17, 2012, 08:23:50 PM
Last time ALL of the sculpts were cast and we all got a set of the entries... I would suggest that this time around it will be similar.

Says in the "rules" that we get a copy of our own sculpt plus a copy of the winning and running up sculpts from each category  :smile:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake July 17, 2012, 09:00:50 PM
Just got my armatures yesterday. Started as soon as possible, which was the time it took me to get it out of the bag. Just did some repositioning. Will post some WIP shots tonight. Mine first is more a terrain piece/wound counter thing.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: SAbel July 18, 2012, 12:06:22 AM
I ve started making parts and pieces for the contest but only so much until I get the armatures.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Revliss July 20, 2012, 04:31:19 AM
go  my  in the mail to  day   now  is there  a  good  place in  the forum  for  me to  post  my  work in progress ? oh  and  emm  its  every  company  on  this  forum , sending  candy  with every  order ?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso July 20, 2012, 04:25:33 PM
Hasslefree and Heresy do... I am not sure about Black Scorpion or Fenris.

The colouring in section is where WIPs should go:

http://forum-of-doom.com/index.php?board=30.0
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: chironex July 22, 2012, 09:38:22 AM
I also have questions:



For anyone who wants wings, I can recommend leaving them up to the converters unlees Hasslefree are going to start photoetching, as they will turn out too thick.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso July 22, 2012, 09:54:17 AM
Thin Brass sheet would be OK (I wouldn't go much thinner than 0.5mm) but the issue may come with fixing it in place...superglue/zap-a-gap is not going to cut it in the mould making process.

I'd suggest that super heroes are sci-fi.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: akka69 July 22, 2012, 10:28:56 AM
I'd suggest that super heroes are sci-fi.
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With your suggestion I'm afraid that 3 of my armatures will contest for the same category... oups!
By the way Chironex I'm working on two super heroes : Wonder woman and super girl, just hope we won't sculpt the same subject.
On second thought it would be interesting to get several mini with the same idea, after all it's a competition!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso July 22, 2012, 12:05:03 PM
I hope that I am not the only one to sculpt a Sleiti... I'd like to see more of them turn up so that I can buy some :) . Whether I win, lose or REALLY lose, I don't mind because I'll still end up with my sculpt in metal and that is pretty cool in its own right :mrgreen: !

There is a distinct lack of supers out there so the more the merrier, I say :D .
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: Mr Teufel July 22, 2012, 12:54:58 PM
There is a distinct lack of supers out there so the more the merrier, I say :D .
Amen to that!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Minimaker July 23, 2012, 01:06:15 AM
Thin Brass sheet would be OK (I wouldn't go much thinner than 0.5mm) but the issue may come with fixing it in place...superglue/zap-a-gap is not going to cut it in the mould making process.

I agree. I'd recommend using green stuff to glue stuff or heat resistant epoxy glue. Superglue can desolve depending on the moulding process used which can lead to mould damage, moved parts and a mouldmaker needing a tweezer to get all bits out. As to attacking the blade to a handle: I'd make both from brass and solder then together or you take the brass, flatten one end make file that end into a spade.

As to making wings: for those who want to have a try:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v490/minimaker/Mini%20sculpting-Techniques/?action=view&current=wings.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v490/minimaker/Mini%20sculpting-Techniques/?action=view&current=wings.jpg)

Bye,
Ming-Hua (who probably has more ideas than time for this competition)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee July 23, 2012, 12:22:14 PM
whatever you decide to add to your figure you need to look at its dimensions.  0.5mm brass should be fine but the vulcanising procedure will reduce its depth considerably so if Kev thinks it wont cast well then this could go against you, it is also liable to end in the mould during de-moulding.  if you thicken it a bit with greenstuff then this will help.

you cant fill gaps with superglue or the equivalent.  the heat during vulcanisation will melt it and the bits will move, then the figure will fall apart during de-moulding and you wont get a decent cavity to get a casting from...this means we wont be able to send you a copy of your casting.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Minimaker July 23, 2012, 09:09:26 PM
Hi Sally,

a quick question for you. If it comes to ballgowns, dance clothes, etc. is there any specific period design (Victorian, Louis xiv, Colonial, Wild West, Medieval) which you like? And yes, it's related to sculpting. :)

Bye,
Ming-Hua
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake July 24, 2012, 06:35:44 AM
I was working on a victorian ballgown type miniature. Then stopped and decided to do something easier.

At the moment I've finished one and am on to my second.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: SAbel July 27, 2012, 11:19:34 PM
I am still waiting for my armatures to arrive. Super heriones in Sci-Fi, got it that changes up my plans. I would love to see some WIP if people would like to post them.

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: akka69 July 27, 2012, 11:47:41 PM
I am still waiting for my armatures to arrive. Super heriones in Sci-Fi, got it that changes up my plans. I would love to see some WIP if people would like to post them.

I will!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: TheBucklandBrewer July 28, 2012, 12:56:56 PM
you cant fill gaps with superglue or the equivalent.  the heat during vulcanisation will melt it and the bits will move, then the figure will fall apart during de-moulding and you wont get a decent cavity to get a casting from...this means we wont be able to send you a copy of your casting.

Can gaps be filled with superfine (white) milliput?
I've added a lot of water to a little bit of my milliput-mixture to make it even paintable, and used it to smooth down the surface (most of all where I filed to heavy)...
Could this work, or would a too fine layer of milliput mess up the model aswell after demoulding?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso July 28, 2012, 04:21:25 PM
Milliput should be fine.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock August 02, 2012, 08:28:23 AM
Signed up to post my WIP!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee August 02, 2012, 08:29:10 AM
Signed up to post my WIP!

http://forum-of-doom.com/index.php?topic=16239.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee August 02, 2012, 08:34:04 AM
Hi Sally,

a quick question for you. If it comes to ballgowns, dance clothes, etc. is there any specific period design (Victorian, Louis xiv, Colonial, Wild West, Medieval) which you like? And yes, it's related to sculpting. :)

Bye,
Ming-Hua

anything you think will sell really.  if something can boost an existing range it is good but not essential, diversity is good.

i personally like Steampunk/Victorian and am a huge fan of the very expesnive Smart Max 'Smog' stuff.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock August 03, 2012, 10:58:18 AM
Oh noes! The Armiture is out of stock! How long till I can buy (with monies) more? Working with her has been a blast and I'm hoping to bust out a few more designs before the deadline and picking my entrys :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake August 07, 2012, 09:19:49 PM
I may have missed it, but how do we submit an entry. Do we send an image by PM to Sally or email to hasslfree or send the actual sculpt?

Cheers

Beefy
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft August 07, 2012, 09:30:18 PM
Sally said she's going to release info on how to submit entries closer to the time. IIRC she also mentioned it will be in the form of photographs.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock August 08, 2012, 07:42:51 AM
I read it that they would be judged on the miniatures themselves but only the photos needed to be in by the deadline. To allow for delivery times.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black August 08, 2012, 10:49:50 AM
Allo People

As a result of a query we have clarified the rules above with an additional ine. We understand most of you will realise this but thought we should do so just in case. Any additions to the sculpt must be either scratchbuilt or Hasslefree parts. No parts from other companies please. Obviously this would mean we couldn't cast it up without breaking the law.

So could nobody send in an armature with a Space Marine helmet on and make Sal grumpy  :swear:

Artemis @ HF
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: cdukino August 09, 2012, 07:49:14 AM
It's official... I am in ;) Started sculpting today. Bit rusty after all those years... but it sure as heck feels good to be sculpting again. Making it myself easy and aiming to complete one instead of several (looks at Minimaker ;) ) My plan however isn't quite as simple... hope i can pull it off. it's a bit fiddly and time consuming if i stick to my original idea ^^
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock August 09, 2012, 08:17:54 AM
Welcome to the comp and good luck ^^
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Avicenna August 09, 2012, 11:43:14 AM
It's official... I am in ;) Started sculpting today. Bit rusty after all those years... but it sure as heck feels good to be sculpting again.

Now there's a blast from the past! I hope you are well, and I look forward to seeing what you come up with :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Macabre August 09, 2012, 12:51:30 PM
I guess I'm another one drawn here by the competition, but I think I'll stay ^_^

This has been my first time sculpting in 28mm, so I hope she's good enough...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Cait Sidhe August 11, 2012, 01:35:20 AM
Quick question. The thread here says the deadline is September 1st but in an email a few weeks back it said the deadline had been extended to October 1st. Which one is the typo?  :scratchhead:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Macabre August 11, 2012, 04:42:03 AM
Neither, it *was* September, but due to the high demand (and subsequent lack thereof) of the require armature, the deadline was moved forward to October so more HLF503's could be made.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock August 11, 2012, 05:52:59 PM
@ Cait Sidhe: come on then, show us your WIP ^^
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso August 11, 2012, 05:55:10 PM
There is a WIP thread... but when will there be a finished thread? :mrgreen:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock August 11, 2012, 06:02:31 PM
I'll be tinkering right up to the deadline! I'm awefull like that
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Cait Sidhe August 11, 2012, 09:26:43 PM
@ Cait Sidhe: come on then, show us your WIP ^^

I haven't started, that's why I was checking the date.  :wink:

I had/have a couple of ideas, one of which was a Sleiti until I saw Inso's superb wip but I might give it a try anyway.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso August 12, 2012, 12:20:32 AM
@ Cait Sidhe: come on then, show us your WIP ^^

I haven't started, that's why I was checking the date.  :wink:

I had/have a couple of ideas, one of which was a Sleiti until I saw Inso's superb wip but I might give it a try anyway.

Take no notice of my stuff... get a Sleiti on the go... Do it... NOW!!!!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake August 12, 2012, 01:28:24 AM
Hf needs more sleiti in the range so what better way
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mr Teufel August 12, 2012, 03:38:43 AM
@ Cait Sidhe: come on then, show us your WIP ^^

I haven't started, that's why I was checking the date.  :wink:

I had/have a couple of ideas, one of which was a Sleiti until I saw Inso's superb wip but I might give it a try anyway.
DOOOO EEEEEET! :metoo: :whip:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin August 12, 2012, 01:11:38 PM
ive got 2 done to abought as good as my sculpting will go, ( better than random blobs of green but not anywhere as goo as some of the stuff floating abought ( Hi Inso))  as far as picks go im afaraid that itll be send pickys to Sally when she tells us the e-mail to send them to, ( see my earlyer coments abought tecnology)  as i can just abought manage taking picks on the didgy camara, and attaching them as E-Mails, but im not signing up to something that i cant understand the posting rules of ( photo bucket  i had 4 windows open to try to do that).
hope youll all forgive that ( or give me anouther easyer option).
And as for multiple ideas on a theme ( Slethi)  as long as there not just straight copys i cant see them not selling, as theyll be close enough to be the same race but individual.
Good luck to the rest of you,  theres no threat coming from here.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Alexander The Alchemist August 13, 2012, 08:51:33 PM
My mate Chris who prompted me to join this forum gave me 2 armatures to work on, so count me in on this :)
I've got a fair amount of progress on one already - a space pirate/ganger based on Yolandi Visser of "Die Antwoord" - a crazy South African rap-rave group :) - pics up shortly in the WIP thread !
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Dethkor August 19, 2012, 01:28:44 PM
I have a question, I needed to remove the tab from the mini, should I reattach it?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: drakkol August 20, 2012, 10:26:43 AM
Hi!

Just wanted to with everyone "good luck"!

It's a pity i have not much time to do a second and third mini...this armature is awsome.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock August 21, 2012, 02:29:22 PM
Can someone please put her in a mech!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/lowako/IMG_0862.jpg)
As you can see I don't have what it takes :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ktolos August 26, 2012, 06:47:55 PM
I thought about it but probably not for the competition as it would have to be a multiple section cast. :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ragados September 07, 2012, 10:14:44 PM
Well I have finished my sculpt (first one ever so I am a total n00b!)
I have some photos but couldn't find the email addy you said you would create Sally?
I am about to go to the states for a month for work so I would also like to get the figure mailed to you before that as well.
Cheers
Raggy
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 08, 2012, 09:25:30 PM
As far as I am aware, the entry method hasnt been posted yet.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: didiergalard September 12, 2012, 03:08:30 PM
Erm... Anyone knows by any chance where to send the converted HFL 503? That would be a great help to me... Thank you all!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 12, 2012, 04:38:37 PM
It will be the HF address on their website BUT don't send it yet. The judges will have to look over pix first and the posting of pix hasn't been mentioned yet.

The closing date for sending in pix is Oct 1st and we haven't had an address/location to send them advertised so patience is the key.

We will all be told in good time. :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Cait Sidhe September 13, 2012, 01:46:04 PM
I really should get a move on...

Unfortunately I lost a lot of motivation owing to me and green stuff apparently not seeing eye to eye on some matters.  :swear:
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: Gangrel September 13, 2012, 06:13:22 PM
I suppose I should make a start, too. Not that I'll be causing any ripples, except maybe from pitying chuckles!
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: Macabre September 18, 2012, 10:10:24 PM
Is it me or is October 1st just around the corner and still no instructions?
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: Dethkor September 18, 2012, 10:42:14 PM
I'm twitching with anticipation!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ragados September 19, 2012, 02:52:57 AM
From an email I think Sally may be Ill. We may have to be patient before getting this. If you are ill Sally then get well soon!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bergil September 21, 2012, 04:32:16 PM
Haven't exactly finished mine yet, so no rush!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 21, 2012, 08:34:40 PM
Cutting it a bit close eh?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Sigur September 24, 2012, 12:46:25 PM
I know that this is a question that has been asked before on Facebook but I just can't find it any more - so for us non-UK'ers (or anybody really): Do the entries have to be at the yet-to-be-disclosed adress by October 1st or does the postage stamp have to by any date before October 1st?

Thanks very much.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 24, 2012, 01:19:09 PM
I know that this is a question that has been asked before on Facebook but I just can't find it any more - so for us non-UK'ers (or anybody really): Do the entries have to be at the yet-to-be-disclosed adress by October 1st or does the postage stamp have to by any date before October 1st?

Thanks very much.

As far as I'm aware we will only have to have submitted photo's of the final piece by that date.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Sigur September 24, 2012, 01:24:08 PM
Now that would be pretty amazing in the way that I might be able to finish something until then. ;) Thanks for the info, Internalclock!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin September 24, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
as far as im aware, we still dont have an adress to send the photos too.
or am i just being the new and improver idiot     again?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 24, 2012, 08:57:02 PM
as far as im aware, we still dont have an adress to send the photos too.
or am i just being the new and improver idiot     again?
you and me both ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 24, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
There hasn't been any info posted.

I have PM'd Sally but have not had a reply. I am sure it is because of the HUGE stuff that is going on in the White household at the moment.

Patience is the order of the day.  I am sure that if the deadline passes it will not be a problem and photo requirements etc will be posted.

Chill out and all will be revealed in good time, I am sure.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Sigur September 24, 2012, 10:51:59 PM
Oh yes, definately. I'm just relieved that we only have to send photos until the 1st of October and the mini doesn't have to be there in person by the 1st. ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin September 25, 2012, 06:26:09 PM
whew.   im ( for a change) not the new and improved idiot  :woohoo:
i can go back to waiting happily.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 25, 2012, 07:18:02 PM
Have a question which just occured to me actually...

So as most us have probably found, greenstuff is a pain to photograph. Is there any problem with undercoating/priming the finished piece for better photography?

I was thinking either undercoat and drybrush or just wash with something to show the depth of the piece.

So, does that cause problems for moulding etc?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 25, 2012, 07:31:30 PM
No you can't add paint. If you add paint it won't be castable.

We all have the same problem photographing our greens so you aren't alone :).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 25, 2012, 07:34:32 PM
Bum.

Thanks for clarifying that Inso, I was going to spray them all tomorrow so... yeah. Change of plans time! I'll just stick up some piccy's in the WiP thread, because I'm done now methinks. Hopes. Prays.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake September 25, 2012, 08:57:19 PM
I think the pics are just to clarify you have finished one and are going to send it in within the specified timeframe. I imagine judging will be done when the miniatures are actually in hand, otherwise it would not only be a competition of sculpting but also photography skills. :)
I'll be looking forward to seeing what everyone has come up with.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 26, 2012, 07:13:14 AM
I think it was also so they can tell us if what we have created isn't castable so it would be a waste to send it in as they cant send it back. Though I would have hoped that they would say something in a WIP thred. I'd be willing to send postage to get greens back :P I'm still in the stage where every sculpt is special to me  :angel:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel September 26, 2012, 07:48:17 AM
This is my very first sculpt, so yes, precious to me too! I've learned so much doing it through. Probably the most important lesson I've learned is never sculpt when there's a rampant kitten on the loose.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 26, 2012, 08:29:37 AM
This is my very first sculpt, so yes, precious to me too! I've learned so much doing it through. Probably the most important lesson I've learned is never sculpt when there's a rampant kitten on the loose.

I have the same trouble with a kitten  :lmao:

It is doubtful if you will get your greens back (they will likely be damaged in the mould) and if I recall, you sign the greens over to Kev when you send them... so they become his property.

I'd have to double check that but he is casting them so it makes sense for him to keep the greens.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 26, 2012, 08:53:44 AM
I was only talking about greens that they decide wont work for the type of casting they are doing. I have a funny feeling that my 4th entry is too extreame a pose for single piece casting. I also think it is my best peice to date :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 26, 2012, 09:24:06 AM
If the green doesn't look like it will be castable, Kev will most likely contact individuals once the finished pix have been sent to him (at a time and place yet to be determined) to talk about what can be done. If they are just 'not viable' I would suggest that there will be no point in sending the green to be cast unless Kev is so impressed with it that he wants to adapt it and work overtime to get it in a mould.

Multi-part has been done in the past... put single part is always the prefered option.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 26, 2012, 10:33:32 AM
I don't know if this is a good sign or a bad sign but I dreampt about this comp last night. For some reason all the enterants were gathered at the beach and there were trophies handed out that were blocks of different coloured  cured Kneadite on plinths. I even got one! but the tide came in and all the entrys were washed out to sea. I was frantically trying to grab at them before they were lost...... That's All I can remember.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee September 26, 2012, 07:17:11 PM
Okay, here we go!

Closing date 1st October 2012.
Images need to be emailed to picturesAThasslefreeminiaturesDOTcoDOTuk by the end of that day.

Image specifications:
1: Max dimensions 72dpi. 800 pixels x 800 pixels.
2: Images should be a composite of one front shot, one back shot plus sideways from both sides.
3: The front shot should contain a ruler as a scale guide.
4: You need to say what category it is entered in

what would be nice but not compulsory is a brief explanation of where you see it fitting into the HF range and the reason you sculpted it including what you made it from etc.

Up to 2 weeks after the closing date we will publish all of the pics online and set up a facility for voting.

Do not send your figures over yet!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 26, 2012, 07:22:56 PM
Cheers Sally :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 26, 2012, 07:42:29 PM
Saw all the giant caps and thought someone was having a drunken RAAAAGE :P

Thanks for the clarification :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin September 26, 2012, 09:52:49 PM
thank you Sally..
now how do i use the digital camara again?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 26, 2012, 09:56:41 PM
thank you Sally..
now how do i use the digital camara again?


Switch it on, press the flower button, point and click... well... that's what I do (and it probably shows :( ).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin September 27, 2012, 08:29:33 AM
 :metoo: aint tecnology great!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin September 27, 2012, 12:32:43 PM
aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
got out the digi cam.  read the instrucions on using macro.  took  4 shots of each entry.
dindnt look too good on the camra screen, so i loaded them onto the pc. where they look evan worse, green and silver blurs  ( i know im not going to be setting the figure world alight with them but you cant evan tell what they are)
Any suggestions any one?  ive had a quick read on the tutorial on taking photos but that dosnt seem to help.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 27, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
With macro, keeping the camera still is essential. It would be best to use a timer or remote lead and a tripod...

... but I don't. I just take extra pix.

Also, if you take a large sized pic but keep the miniature small in the pic (hold the camera further away from the miniature), it allows the flash to work without being too close and spoiling the image.

Use additional lighting or natural light if it is bright enough.

...That's all I can suggest.

Oh... I almost forgot... make sure your battery is well charged because low battery makes blurry pix (or it does for me anyway :( ).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 27, 2012, 01:38:03 PM
I'm far from an expert but I've experimented a fair bit so here's what works for me:

Camera on macro, held by hand about 50cm from figure.

My 'lightbox' is actually two sheets of white plastic, one on the table the other laid against the couch behind, and set in front of the patio doors. I take my pictures when it's overcast outside with the curtains open about 2ft, which seems to let in about the right amount of light.

Hardly the height of precision, but it seems to work!

After that I open the images in GIMP (free image software) and shrink them to either 50% or 33% of the original, depending which looks best. I usually find the shrink to 50% makes them look way, waaaaay better than the original size. Also puts them at a convenient size for posting on forums ;D

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake September 28, 2012, 04:32:35 AM
If our sculpts aren't quite castable will we be given advice on how to make it castable even if it can no longer win?

Thanks
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 28, 2012, 08:52:51 AM
Okay, here we go!

Closing date 1st October 2012.
Images need to be emailed to picturesAThasslefreeminiaturesDOTcoDOTuk by the end of that day.

Image specifications:
1: Max dimensions 72dpi. 800 pixels x 800 pixels.
2: Images should be a composite of one front shot, one back shot plus sideways from both sides.
3: The front shot should contain a ruler as a scale guide.
4: You need to say what category it is entered in

what would be nice but not compulsory is a brief explanation of where you see it fitting into the HF range and the reason you sculpted it including what you made it from etc.

Up to 2 weeks after the closing date we will publish all of the pics online and set up a facility for voting.

Do not send your figures over yet!


I'm not overly sure about point 2. Am I suposed to create one collage image containing a shot from each of the 4 angles? Or am I supposed to have a sepirate image for each angle? If its the latter can I include close ups of details not seen from these angles? A demo Image of a random mini would really help me out here :D I've posted a WIP PIC of my 4th Entry how I think you want it (minus the ruler and with a width of 600 to comply with the thread rules) in the Comp WIP thread.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake September 28, 2012, 09:07:16 AM
I'd imagine 1 of each side. That's just me though and my interpretation.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 28, 2012, 10:10:56 AM
Reading the instructions, I would suggest it is a single 800x800 picture that is a composite picture of four angles of the same miniature (with the front view having a ruler beside it to show size).

I could be completely wrong but I would think Sally only wants one pic per entry to keep her mail-box from collapsing under the flood of images :)

The category, story, background info etc. just goes in the text of the e-mail. It may also be a good idea to let Sally know your forum name (ie, for me, Inso) just in case she needs to PM you (otherwise it will be e-mails only).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: mattias c September 28, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Damn it... Before reading the instructions properly I put my entry in a coushoned envelope and sent it by snail mail. Means no model to take photos of anymore.  :( I really hope that Hasslefree gets my letter and lets me join the competition this way instead. Really sorry for my total lack of following simple instructions.

Is it possible to get an answer from mrs Hasslefree herself, or someone else in charge, that my entry is OK?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 28, 2012, 11:07:49 AM
Horry! One vote either way! So I'm not the only confused one :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake September 28, 2012, 11:18:27 AM
I think I failed to read the word composite. That probably means just 1 photo.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: cdukino September 28, 2012, 03:29:42 PM
I have send in my entry :) Can't wait to see them all.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bergil September 28, 2012, 04:51:05 PM
Damn it... Before reading the instructions properly I put my entry in a coushoned envelope and sent it by snail mail. Means no model to take photos of anymore.  :( I really hope that Hasslefree gets my letter and lets me join the competition this way instead. Really sorry for my total lack of following simple instructions.

Is it possible to get an answer from mrs Hasslefree herself, or someone else in charge, that my entry is OK?

I'd email someone directly!
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: mattias c September 28, 2012, 04:51:59 PM
I'll do that, thanks.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel September 29, 2012, 08:59:17 AM
I just need to do hair on my entry and make a last couple of tweaks. Just one question for the more experienced types (i.e. anyone, compared to me). I need to fill/smooth a couple of areas, is is OK to use Milliput over the Green Stuff for that?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 29, 2012, 12:58:50 PM
As far as I'm aware, you'd be better with mixing a softer GS mix, use vasaleen on your tool, preferably a rubber nosed putty pusher. Least that is what i'd do
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 29, 2012, 01:37:06 PM
Milliput is fine... as is a mix of milliput and GS (if you do that you get the best of both worlds).

As a side note, I've just sent my image off today :)

Gratuitous kitten picture:

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d161/Inso/Henry7.jpg)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 29, 2012, 02:06:37 PM
I'm quite the fan of mixing in a little fimo :D It gives me sooooo much more working time
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin September 29, 2012, 03:15:58 PM
well... ive had anouther couple of attempts with the camara.
then had my normal wrestle with IT gubbins to get an image, ( did it finaly by copying and croping the pics into powerpoint, and saving as gifs)  and sent them off.  I hope to heck that there ok as my only outher option is to just send them by post ( which i wont be able to do realy safely till next weekend now).

I ve realy enjoyed the green stuff bit, and working with the dollies to create "somethin"  i just hope ive managed to get the end bit right.

Oh and Inso  that is a very cute kitten, and dosent it know it!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 29, 2012, 04:44:40 PM
So is everyone sending 4 images per entry or one collage?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 29, 2012, 05:07:10 PM
I sent a collage
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Dethkor September 29, 2012, 05:50:03 PM
It took me near two hours to figure out, but managed to make a collage, so that's what I sent in this morning.

Good luck to everyone!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 29, 2012, 08:12:24 PM
Coolio, I've made 3/4 of mine too :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake September 29, 2012, 09:36:26 PM
I'd better get on to taking my photos then!!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel September 29, 2012, 09:43:41 PM
Thanks guys. An hour or so tomorrow afternoon should see me done. All in about 6 days. I think I'm well on for 38th position!   :D  I'll have to make sure the camera is charged.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake September 30, 2012, 03:39:38 AM
Entry sent  :woohoo:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ragados September 30, 2012, 08:38:17 AM
Well I guess I don't get to enter...
I am now in the US and not able to take photos. I tried to get info on what to do before I left but didn't get the info in time. I only saw this at all because a friend let me know you had updated the details.
Real shame to put so much work in an not be able to take part.
Good luck to the rest of you all.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 30, 2012, 08:41:35 AM
How so? Did you leave your entries in the UK?

In which case.. how were you planning to mail them to the contest?

Could your friend/parents not photograph them?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ragados September 30, 2012, 08:47:40 AM
Yeah the entry is still in the UK. I had been hoping for info on where to send the miniature a little bit earlier (see my post a few pages back). Not really anyone I can call on for photos. I think I have a couple of WIP pics on my phone but they aren't very good quality for voting purposes.
It was my fault for assuming the lack of response meant the entries were getting pushed back.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 30, 2012, 09:03:37 AM
My suggestion would be to send in the pics you have and explain your circumstances to Sally. I am sure that there will be some latitude for extenuating circumstances. When do you return from the US? If it is only a couple of weeks then maybe something can be worked out with Sally. A PM or e-mail would be my first recommendation because, as you say, putting all that work in is a real shame if it doesn't get entered in the comp.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ragados September 30, 2012, 09:09:07 AM
My suggestion would be to send in the pics you have and explain your circumstances to Sally. I am sure that there will be some latitude for extenuating circumstances. When do you return from the US? If it is only a couple of weeks then maybe something can be worked out with Sally. A PM or e-mail would be my first recommendation because, as you say, putting all that work in is a real shame if it doesn't get entered in the comp.

Thanks Inso, I will give that a shot. getting back to the UK is dependent on work but shouldn't be later than the 14th October.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ragados September 30, 2012, 09:18:47 AM
Email sent, fingers crossed.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 30, 2012, 09:44:29 AM
Has anyone sculpted the Slotter tag onto their minis?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ironmammoth September 30, 2012, 10:18:52 AM
I sent my entry in last night :smile:

Doubt it will win any prizes, but I am happy with it!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ironmammoth September 30, 2012, 10:20:02 AM
Has anyone sculpted the Slotter tag onto their minis?

I just left the tag that was on there on!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 30, 2012, 10:24:00 AM
Yeah, that happened naturally for 3 of mine but for the last one I took it off as I moved the legs so far.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 30, 2012, 10:25:10 AM
Has anyone sculpted the Slotter tag onto their minis?

I just left the tag that was on there on!

Me too.

The addition of the basing tab is something Kev will sort out if he needs to (due to it needing to have 'hasslefree' and the copyright/date on it :) ) so don't worry :).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake September 30, 2012, 10:57:39 AM
Neither of mine have tabs. I'll be looking forward to seeing all the other entries.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 30, 2012, 11:21:57 AM
Entrys sent! In a 800by800 collage of all four angles for each mini. I did one modern, one scifi and two fantasy. I wish the photos were better if they are what people will be voting on but there ain't nothing I can do abouit that unless I buy a real camera :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: No Head Ned September 30, 2012, 04:05:59 PM
Well, sent my entry in. Feels good actually (just) meeting a deadline.

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel September 30, 2012, 06:06:19 PM
Well, I've finished my first ever sculpt. I have some fairly unpleasing photos, so I just have to do the photomontage.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 30, 2012, 06:18:29 PM
~Congrats :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel September 30, 2012, 10:09:01 PM
Entry sent!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Macabre October 01, 2012, 05:22:44 AM
Entry sent. Good luck everyone, I've really enjoyed this competition and I hope they do another one soon ^_^
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: precinctomega October 01, 2012, 05:36:42 AM
Thank heaven.  Just woke up at stupid o' clock, convinced I'd missed the deadline, checked this thread and the deadline is tomorrow!

Huzzah!

R.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 01, 2012, 07:16:49 AM
Well less than 18 hours until the deadline.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 01, 2012, 07:47:06 AM
yes, currently almost 8am on deadline day. You have 16 hours and 20 minutes!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 01, 2012, 09:03:55 AM
I'm getting so excited for the deadline... even though nothing will happen for atleast two weeks >.>
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 01, 2012, 09:59:28 AM
Up to 2 weeks after the closing date we will publish all of the pics online and set up a facility...
I read that as before two weeks... I hope :)

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 01, 2012, 10:03:31 AM
Personally I hope Kev and sally pic first place and let the forum do second. Or even better, they do second too. I don't like my chances based on the quality of my photos. Maybe have a single "forum's choice prize"
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 01, 2012, 10:27:59 AM
 :metoo: me too
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel October 01, 2012, 12:16:35 PM
Yeah. my photos are fairly awful. I'd be happy with Kev and Sally making the choices regardless of any other considerations. After all; it's their company.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Avicenna October 01, 2012, 12:22:13 PM
I thought I'd missed it as well! I'll get my photos sorted tonight!

Phew!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: precinctomega October 01, 2012, 01:57:03 PM
Got mine in!  I kept thinking I was finished, then checked the entry criteria and realized I'd got them wrong again.  It was a real struggle getting decent pics that would fit in an 800x800px frame, including the ruler, with all four faces, at 72dpi.  I think I got it right in the end, though.

Here she is:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/precinctomega/Sculpting/121001-HFSculptingComp-done.jpg)

R.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gothy Beans October 01, 2012, 02:44:22 PM
Yeah. my photos are fairly awful. I'd be happy with Kev and Sally making the choices regardless of any other considerations. After all; it's their company.
It's a shame you don't know a photographer.  :erm:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 01, 2012, 03:51:02 PM
I had to skip the ruler as I don't actually own one with the markings left on >.>
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Alexander The Alchemist October 01, 2012, 08:35:44 PM
Still finishing the rifle on my second entry. Hopefully it'll be done and photographed by the deadline.

Edit - That was tricky to scale them down and keep them looking sharp, but here it is.

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m216/Allykz666/YolandiPicCollage.gif)

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bioptic October 01, 2012, 08:40:27 PM
I had real problems getting a ruler upright in a shot with natural lighting! Ended up sort of...wedging the miniature and ruler into part of a window frame, and sticking a piece of paper behind to keep the autofocus working. Suffice it to say, I think my side/back shots fared rather better!

Still, entry set yesterday evening - can't wait to see what everyone's come up with.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 01, 2012, 09:53:01 PM
Great job guys. Sounds like we have a healthy number of entrys :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 01, 2012, 10:15:57 PM
My Pic:

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d161/Inso/WIP/HFCS6.jpg)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gothy Beans October 01, 2012, 10:26:53 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Che0A.jpg)

It started off as Death.. Ended up being what I think looks like a stressed business woman. I've never converted or sculpted in this scale before, so I know it's fairly pants. I just thought I'd try.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 01, 2012, 10:59:10 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/lowako/Onesie-Entry.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/lowako/Wildling-Entry.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/lowako/Kumi-Entry.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/lowako/Low-Entry.jpg)
If nothing else I think my technique has atleast improved a bit ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Cait Sidhe October 02, 2012, 12:35:38 AM
Well finished at least but faffing about with the camera and paint shop took me till 00:15am... If nothing else I hate green stuff a little less and will put in some practice before the next one which I will probably not be working on up till 11:50pm on the deadline day.  :(

Well guess you got lucky this time Inso...  :lol:

Edit: Might as well post a pic here, practicing camera skills for the next one seems a good idea and a recurring theme.  :silly

(http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k504/KHoneyman/Miniatures/Sculpting/Maeal_Collage.jpg)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bergil October 02, 2012, 01:01:36 AM
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg42/Bergil/d.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg42/Bergil/c.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg42/Bergil/b.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg42/Bergil/A.jpg)

Sorry I've missed the deadline with this! If because of that its not considered that's no biggy :)

 I would have liked to do more with it but I just haven't had the time.

Category... Modern.

Her name is Elizabeth, and by necessity she is a bad*ss zombie/demon/cthulu monster hunter.

Or something.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Alexander The Alchemist October 02, 2012, 02:25:20 AM
Finished my second entry - a Wild West/Steampunk cowgirl I call Sienna, and her bulldog Paco.

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m216/Allykz666/Sienna_Paco.gif)

Just after 9 my time zone and I sent pics just now. Does the competition close at midnight GMT or is is by time zones ?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 02, 2012, 02:47:31 AM
I guess I should put my pics up too. My camera work and photoshopping skills are quite sub-par but here they are anyway.
 

Harryhausen inspired Gorgon (almost wrote Grogan there) FANTASY
(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/kminis/Gorgon.jpg)


Head crab Victim (meant to be lying down but photographed line this for casting purposes) SCI-FI
(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/kminis/Victim.jpg)

I sent my entry in about a day or two ago.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 02, 2012, 02:58:58 AM
Looking through this there are so many cool things. I have no idea which I'll vote for, but I'm happy to get metal versions of mine and of the winners, now I wish I had entered all three categories.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mabus October 02, 2012, 07:10:02 AM
Sent my pics in the other day. Missed some of the criteria of the pics such as the ruler. Hope these still work.

I was planning a fantasy one but didn't have the time.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Kahhon/Daisy_zps5896959b.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Kahhon/Huntress_zps533aa1d1.jpg)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 02, 2012, 07:34:16 AM
WOW! Super secret entrys! I can't wait for voting to begin!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Grulgor October 02, 2012, 02:05:28 PM
Loving all the entries, crossing my fingers for my one, was a bit of a sod getting it to 72dpi, had to grab a free trial of photoshop! First time I've actually entered a competition like this though so to even get it finished was satisfying.

Also first post for the forum, so hello chaps! Though I've been getting mini's from hasslefree and heresy for a while.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 02, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
Loving all the entries, crossing my fingers for my one, was a bit of a sod getting it to 72dpi, had to grab a free trial of photoshop! First time I've actually entered a competition like this though so to even get it finished was satisfying.

Also first post for the forum, so hello chaps! Though I've been getting mini's from hasslefree and heresy for a while.
Welcome! I'm most excited to have a minature cast up, So curently my fingers are crossed that all my entrys are accepted!

I wish that people organised sculpting gatherings. I bet that I would improve leaps and bounds just from absorbing all the techniques people make up in isolation.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Avicenna October 02, 2012, 02:37:29 PM
Well, as others have been posting their entries, here's mine ;)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8bny_xzPlvY/UGrqxX8apyI/AAAAAAAAEVk/yWXft3eU6Tk/s640/hannibelle_hf_comp.jpg) (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8bny_xzPlvY/UGrqxX8apyI/AAAAAAAAEVk/yWXft3eU6Tk/s1600/hannibelle_hf_comp.jpg)

She's a bit simpler than most here, but I a pretty pleased with how she turned out :) Definitely the best greenstuff sculpting I've done
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Sigur October 02, 2012, 02:39:25 PM
Ooh, so many great entries cropping up. :) Looking forward to seeing more (whilst still maintining a tiny shroud of hope for my own entry.  :oops: )
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: daeothar October 02, 2012, 02:55:35 PM
First poster here as well. I do not know where I read about the contest, but when I did, I just had to give it a shot. I'm not one for blogging progress; when I'm focussed on doing stuff, I tend to forget to take a break and some pictures every now and then. Speaking of which; as you might guess, I'm certainly no photographer. In fact, I later took an extra picture, not with my camera, but with my phone, no setup other than my desklamp bent a bit lower and it turned out many times better than with all those extra lights, borrowed camera etc. Go figure eh...   :crazy:

So, without further blabbering, here is the result of Daeothar mashing at putty with assorted tools. She's called Nurse Sylvia and I aimed to make her fit into the Modern / Adventurers range:

(http://www.fierylions.nl/Pictures/ForumPictures/NurseSylvia800.jpg)

And I thought 'Stop whining and take it like a man' would be a suitable tagline for her... :wink:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 02, 2012, 03:14:44 PM
love the evil grin on that one xD
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: cdukino October 02, 2012, 04:19:44 PM
My entry: Whisper mistress of crows

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/cdukino/Whispermistressofcrowscontestentry.jpg)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel October 02, 2012, 04:40:15 PM
I still love that one! I'm kind of embarrassed to show mine after seeing all these!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Minimaker October 02, 2012, 05:05:52 PM
And here is the sister to Whisper. :)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-i7qIEbaA0SY/UGsMgavs0qI/AAAAAAAAHJw/e33jdahk7xs/s800/Hasslefree_2012_Minimaker_Scream.jpg)
Must be something in the family.

And my second entry:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-710DWcTtqw8/UGsMhjTSU8I/AAAAAAAAHJ4/LGmtFmyJBiM/s800/Hasslefree_2012_Minimaker_Dr.jpg)

Didn't get to finish my HMPURPVSRMW BGR A30 Mk3 in time. :( If I get to finish it I will post it some other time.

Great entries all.

Oh, and my pics were taken with a single desklight, metal case as reflector and a blue book as background. Didn't have time to go fancy with the setup.

Bye, Ming-Hua.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: precinctomega October 02, 2012, 07:19:52 PM
Frankly, the prospect of getting some of the entries to paint is going to be reward enough.

R.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 02, 2012, 08:10:21 PM
I'm already working out how to explain to my better half that I need to spend a months' wage on things...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Pleasurepain October 02, 2012, 08:19:25 PM
Here's my one!

I decided not to mess with the basic pose too much, but to go with what seemed right for it as it was (Which turns out to have been a blessing because I didn't get any time to do it until the last week. The putty was drying as I photographed it!). What I saw in the original armature was a little goaty sister for big old Oberon:

(http://s16.postimage.org/4qmbstwlh/HFComp_Oberons_Sister.jpg)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 04, 2012, 05:23:52 PM
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/278/1/d/monsterhunter_by_internalclock-d5guvg3.jpg)
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/278/1/2/wildling_by_internalclock-d5guvcp.jpg)
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/278/1/5/onesie_by_internalclock-d5guv3y.jpg)
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/278/e/9/loweko_by_internalclock-d5guuq2.jpg)

Went round to inreposes and used his super awesome camera. If only I had thought to do that for my entrys!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mr Teufel October 05, 2012, 01:04:20 AM
Some utterly stonking sculpts being posted! I think the judges will be tearing their hair out working out which should win!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: TheBucklandBrewer October 05, 2012, 05:46:59 PM
My entries:

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7126/hfmfan.jpg)

(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9900/hfmsf.jpg)

(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9748/hfmmod.jpg)


: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Hasslefriesian October 06, 2012, 01:13:02 AM
Dameon's first job on Monday will be to print all of these out for me to have a proper look at.

You've all done us (and yourselves) proud :D

(I haven't posted on any of the threads before because I didn't want to put anyone off. People ask for CC if they know I'm around and that can sometimes cause people to stop what they're doing if I say, "well, this could be sharper" or whatever)

So, yeah, well done one and all :thumbup:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mr Teufel October 06, 2012, 01:30:56 AM
Some utterly stonking sculpts being posted! I think the judges will be tearing their hair out working out which should win!
Of course, this doesn't apply to Kev.

Because he's just so cool that way! (What did you think I meant?! :twisted:)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Leader of the Rats October 06, 2012, 03:57:16 AM
Wow some awesome sculpts. It's ok to post our works up here? I have one I can put up, but not sure if it's ok with the comp rules...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 06, 2012, 04:28:27 AM
Everyone else has. I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's works so please post, and welcome along!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ironmammoth October 06, 2012, 08:31:15 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-O9d7xo9ddcQ/UG_bd7CdDcI/AAAAAAAAEic/ek96XrSTQ9E/s640/Hasslefree%2520Sci-Fi%2520Girl%2520Sculpt%2520-%2520David%2520Drage.jpg)

I went for simplicity, emphasising Kevs figure work and going for the retro sci-fi look. My main constraint though was a lack of sculpting time over the summer...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel October 06, 2012, 09:03:00 AM
That's VERY sweet, I'll ty to add my photo later today.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: perceptionistruth October 06, 2012, 06:28:01 PM
All amazing, frankly, and it's absolutely incredible to me they all came from the same armature.

Well done everyone.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: The Keyman October 07, 2012, 03:25:36 PM
Hi everybody!

Here my mini:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jVswtAJyKbE/UGhntn-coII/AAAAAAAAABI/mUCfev8epwU/s512/FiguryGeek%2520-%2520Men%2527s%2520Hunter%2520-%2520HassleFree%2520Contest%2520-%2520The%2520Keyman.jpg)

I'm very glad to see lot of beautifull things here ;)

(I'm french so I apoligize for my language's mistake!).


: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel October 07, 2012, 05:43:54 PM
And here's mine:

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq277/Gangrel_UK/Pirates/Miscellaneous%20miniatures/GangGirlfinal2.jpg)

I'm well aware it's not in the same league as others here, but hey, it's my first attempt ever, so I'm just amazed I finished it!  :D  She's inspired by my old Vampire: The Masquerade character; bike jacket, boots and tight jeans.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: DRAGON October 07, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
Some excellent entries - great job everyone  :thumbup:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: The Keyman October 07, 2012, 10:14:51 PM
Is there anybody who receives an answer to his mail? I'm just afraid by the idea tha they don't receive my email 8:::
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 07, 2012, 10:15:47 PM
Nope, I don't think they're responding to any entries lol
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 08, 2012, 07:12:29 AM
Nope, I don't think they're responding to any entries lol
:metoo: well, I haven't heard anything
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Hasslefriesian October 08, 2012, 09:54:25 AM
We had a problem where Dameon thought Sal was checking an email account while Sally thought the opposite, so for a while some accounts weren't checked for weeks :lol:

If some entries have gone missing we will make allowances for them and let the entries stand even if we get them later than the deadline specified.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: ironmammoth October 08, 2012, 08:41:29 PM
We had a problem where Dameon thought Sal was checking an email account while Sally thought the opposite, so for a while some accounts weren't checked for weeks :lol:

If some entries have gone missing we will make allowances for them and let the entries stand even if we get them later than the deadline specified.

Sounds reasonable, but how do we know if our entries have gone astray... Should we have received a confirmation email?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee October 09, 2012, 12:34:12 PM
we are ploughing our way through them at the moment.  i will send out a blanket email by the weekend to every entry in that inbox so if you still havent received confirmation by saturday then firstly check your spam folder, secondly check that you are logged onto the right email account and thirdly email me at sallyAThasslefreeminiaturesDOTcoDOTuk

i just want to say that overall the standard of entries this year is fab, thanks so much!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bewildered Badger October 09, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
There are some excellent pieces of work here. Everyone who entered should feel very proud of what they have achieved.  :notworthy:

I'm ashamed at how quickly I gave up after the putty refused to cooperate. I shall have to learn perseverance.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Sigur October 11, 2012, 02:06:12 PM
So, so much great stuff in here. Lots of really creative stuff and some made me actually weep in terms of quality and skill. :S

Now for something completely different - my entry:

(http://sigur.tabletopgeeks.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/18/gallery/other/risa1.jpg)


Hope that you like it. :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: drakkol October 12, 2012, 10:29:19 AM
 :blink: There are works of high level in this thread... :applause:

My hopes are vanishing but my eyes are full of good things... :thumbup:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: yazza October 12, 2012, 03:29:31 PM
heres mine, went for a water elemental type, but would also work as bark/plant elemental, fire elemetal or even the wihcblade kinda
first major sculpt ever!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398272_10151297858652625_2099164378_n.jpg)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 12, 2012, 08:54:35 PM
She makes me think of witchblade
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Wolfbane October 13, 2012, 08:41:02 AM
Hello all  :smile:
this is my entry for the competition (Fantasy category). It's inspired by the TV series "The legend of the Seeker", you can see the pic I used for inspiraton here: http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13300000/The-Only-Mord-Sith-To-Win-Richard-bridget-regan-13346071-1000-1257.jpg (http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13300000/The-Only-Mord-Sith-To-Win-Richard-bridget-regan-13346071-1000-1257.jpg).
I only swap the head with another one from the Hasslefree range. I think it fits good in the Hasslefree fantasy series.

(http://www.wolfbane-art.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/mordsith1.jpg) (http://www.wolfbane-art.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/mordsith2.jpg) (http://www.wolfbane-art.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/mordsith3.jpg)

I hope you like her :smile:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 13, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
Has anyone received the blanket email yet? :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Grulgor October 13, 2012, 12:43:48 PM
Nope, I'm crossing my fingers that it just hasn't been sent yet, I'd hate to think my entry didn't get through!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 13, 2012, 01:46:39 PM
Not to be a party pooper but please have a little patience ;).

The e-mails will be sent out when HF are ready. Lots has been going on at HF and I would suggest that getting the new releases out is a higher priority at the moment.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 13, 2012, 01:52:53 PM
That's fine, but Sal said to ask questions if we hadn't received an email by saturday so that's all I'm doing.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mr Teufel October 13, 2012, 02:11:02 PM
My god, the quality is high in this comp.  :blink: :whaaa: :lalala:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: perceptionistruth October 13, 2012, 02:13:05 PM
My god, the quality is high in this comp.  :blink: :whaaa: :lalala:

 :metoo: :applause:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 13, 2012, 02:38:20 PM
That's fine, but Sal said to ask questions if we hadn't received an email by saturday so that's all I'm doing.

Normally all the admin gets done in the evening (that leaves time for family), so I wouldn't worry :).

I wouldn't worry if your e-mail didn't get through anyway, I am sure that they can be re-sent if need be... these things are always kept friendly :)... it's HF, after all.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 13, 2012, 02:41:02 PM
They're all busy with this no bra day thing. I looked it up. it's not even a thing! It's just boobies for the sake of boobies!

Which, kinda... isn't a problem at all.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 13, 2012, 09:33:40 PM
Good to see that I'm not the only one without an email ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel October 14, 2012, 10:56:40 AM
As Inso says, don't stress about it. Kev and Sally have real world lives, just like we all have. We'll get the email in due course, and in the unlikely even that something has gone wrong (and I'll repeat: unlikely) we know they'll do everything possible to sort it. Don't stress, just have a coffee and go after a bit of your lead mountains with a brush of choice in the meantime. That's what I'm going to do.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Macabre October 15, 2012, 08:02:37 AM
Was there any sign of this blanket email? :erm:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 15, 2012, 08:42:26 AM
Was there any sign of this blanket email? :erm:

No.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bungle October 15, 2012, 10:50:53 AM
Was there any sign of this blanket email? :erm:

(http://www.northwoodblanket.com/Blanket%20Photo%20One%20of%20a%20Kind.jpg)

there you are.

Presume the whole White family has Man-flu, they will get round to it.

PS some lovely sculpts, even some I would buy,,
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: precinctomega October 15, 2012, 12:13:21 PM
Just got mine, so I assume they're all going out, now.

R.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 15, 2012, 12:23:15 PM
MINE!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 15, 2012, 12:29:10 PM
Just remember that there may be a large amount of e-mails to be sent out so if you haven't had one yet, give it a few hours before you start feeling neglected ;).

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Dethkor October 15, 2012, 03:10:12 PM
I received my email this morning too.  :woohoo:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: The Keyman October 15, 2012, 05:50:07 PM
Gets mine!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin October 15, 2012, 06:33:37 PM
got mine   :boing: 
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bergil October 16, 2012, 11:41:38 AM
I haven't got one :(
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 16, 2012, 12:04:13 PM
Just remember that there may be a large amount of e-mails to be sent out so if you haven't had one yet, give it a few hours before you start feeling neglected ;).

Bergil, please note the above ;).

Sally mentioned on facebook that there were a lot of entries. Leave it a day or so before worrying and then drop her a PM/E-mail if nothing turns up.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 16, 2012, 12:09:19 PM
If I'm not mistaken Sal posted on Facebook yesterday saying that all entries she's received have now been emailed.

*checking...*

Yes, she did: http://www.facebook.com/HF.Minis.are.the.best?ref=stream

So if you haven't received your email (and check your junk box first) it's time to contact them.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 16, 2012, 12:27:00 PM
I didn't have access to FB at work so... as above then :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 16, 2012, 01:36:43 PM
check da spam!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bergil October 16, 2012, 01:41:47 PM
check da spam!

I have :(
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 16, 2012, 10:04:57 PM
Send a new email :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 18, 2012, 11:33:59 AM
I received my e-mail so I'm happy. I am sure that anyone who didn't has got or will get sorted out.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 19, 2012, 07:35:28 AM
If not, maybe I'll get a prise   :twisted: mwa ha ha ha
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gothy Beans October 23, 2012, 11:33:28 PM
Quite how many entries were there? I saw quite a few threads from people I recognise.. And many more from people who signed up just for the contest. I'm going to assume there were a lot of entries that weren't posted, too.  :paranoid2:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 24, 2012, 07:14:44 AM
There seemed to be a lot of interest on facebook too.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Macabre November 05, 2012, 10:57:55 PM
Seeing as its been over a month now since the competition closed, does anyone have any news on this?  :erm:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 05, 2012, 11:03:21 PM
Sal got her PC back on wednesday last week and said she'd be working on organising the entries then
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso November 05, 2012, 11:08:12 PM
No news yet... but it will come at some point.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 06, 2012, 06:12:25 PM
I was supposed to get my PC back last week, I eventually got it back on Friday afternoon.  The motherboard was replaced and the operating system installed but all of my software, bookmarks etc were gone. The kids went back to school yesterday after half term however Luke did not go back until today.  Photoshop is now installed as is the FTP upload programmes.  Today i have been collating all of my bookmarks again which has involved tracking down all of my old urls that link to what I do one daily basis including accessing the website server, the image storage server, emails, advertising links and all control panels as well as coding the new 54 mm figure. I am all set to start organising the images tomorrow morning after a hospital appointment plus a run to the casters.  I hope to have them done as soon as possible, I am sorry for the delay which was completely beyond my control.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 06, 2012, 06:19:48 PM
omg I know your pain on that one -.-'

My hard drive fried itself a while back and I had to spend almost 800 to get the data recovered, and I STILL lost all my bookmarks etc. Not fun times!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Brandlin November 06, 2012, 07:03:24 PM
Hard drives frying is a pain.
Mother boards frying is a simple swap. No need at all to uninstall anything! Odd...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Ajsalium November 06, 2012, 10:55:00 PM
I've had THREE hard drives dying... :blub:

Sorry for going off-topic, but I had to get that out of my chest!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bahir November 07, 2012, 02:54:23 PM
I had the blue screen of death the other night, and then a boot error.  I was able to get it running and hastily made sure I had back ups on my external drives.

I hate that sinking feeling you get when you think your computer is going to die...

(of course in the back of my mind I was thinking... "Replace the old HD with an SSD or see if I can talk the wife into getting that new gaming PC...)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake November 07, 2012, 07:19:47 PM
I hate that blue screen. Lately my computer has had that about once a day and sometimes everything just locks up. No keyboard, no mouse. I have to turn it off at the button to get it going again and then it takes about 3-4 restarts for it to right itself... oh yeah, looking forward to seeing those pics Sal, when you get the chance. :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Enazel November 08, 2012, 01:27:08 PM
Hard drives frying is a pain.
Mother boards frying is a simple swap. No need at all to uninstall anything! Odd...

As long as it was replaced with same motherboard then nope there wouldn't be. But guessing it be a different model board and 9 times out of 10 you would end up having to reinstall.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Sigur November 09, 2012, 01:57:37 PM
I've had a blue screen two weeks ago. Weird, in the past this used to be a regular occurance with the only thing changing being the look of the blue screen since WinXP but those two weeks ago I was close to panicking for a moment just because I wasn't used to it any more. :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: The Keyman November 17, 2012, 09:32:05 PM
Any news about the contest?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock November 17, 2012, 09:57:42 PM
Nout
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso November 17, 2012, 10:49:37 PM
Things that are worth something are worth waiting for ;)

Patience, sculptors, will reward with treasures :D

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gothy Beans November 18, 2012, 07:25:20 PM
Plenty of other things to see and do on the FoD whilst you wait...  :whistle:  :wink:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mr Teufel November 18, 2012, 11:11:46 PM
Ya gotta realise that Hasslefree is two people. They've got to run a business, take care of three (possibly four?*) kids, sculpt new figures, and judge this comp. I'm sure they want to judge this comp, from what they've said they love the level of quality the competitors have brought! I feel they may have been surprised by that and the number of entries** - both which make judging it more difficult.

*gluttons for punishment!

**They've run sculpting comps before on this site. Judgement was delayed by real life then, too. But I don't remember anything like the variety or skill or number of entries that this comp has attracted. So Good On You, Competitors!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: precinctomega November 20, 2012, 01:26:07 PM
Yeah, the quality of entries was in a completely different field, this year.  I thought I was a shoo-in to place, looking at previous years, but reckon I'll be lucky to make the final cut this year.

R.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 20, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Okay, i have got the initial pics of all of the entries onto the Facebook page.

I am concerned with 74 pictures about it affecting the running of the FOD.  All of the pics are variable sizes and the folder with the jpgs in runs at 43MB.  I dont have a problem popping it on one of our dedicated image servers but will need to edit them all individually to ensure that none go over 800 pixels wide or it might not load on the FOD.

Shall i get them on here or are you happy to browse Facebook?

I can see a problem with those who do not have Facebook accounts so if you are happy to bear with me a little while longer i will fit in reducing their sizes a bit to make browsing on here easier.

is that okay?

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.496503997048549.113778.205953016103650&type=1
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 20, 2012, 02:18:14 PM
Having a lot of trouble with facebook (not to mention I hate it and wish it would die), but I think my entries are missing. How's the best way to get in touch about that?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 20, 2012, 02:26:23 PM
Having a lot of trouble with facebook (not to mention I hate it and wish it would die), but I think my entries are missing. How's the best way to get in touch about that?
send me the details of the email you used to send the pics, i will search on the pics inbox and see if i have missed downloading it.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bungle November 20, 2012, 02:27:07 PM
No facebook account for me but I could still see them, 74 in total.

About 5 I would buy straight off if cast, a couple more that are excellent and a few more that either need some better pictures or some more finishing work.

So that around 10% to 20% that look (HF standard) professional, cast able and saleable to me.

Some great concepts.

Congrats to all who entered.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 20, 2012, 02:29:40 PM
Having a lot of trouble with facebook (not to mention I hate it and wish it would die), but I think my entries are missing. How's the best way to get in touch about that?
send me the details of the email you used to send the pics, i will search on the pics inbox and see if i have missed downloading it.

I've just replied to the email I got from you after sending them. To be safe I added the pics again.

The email I sent to was pictures at hf
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Grulgor November 20, 2012, 02:34:16 PM
I've also replied to the entry confirmation email with my picture again incase it got lost as mine is definitely missing from the entries on facebook *Panic face engaged!*
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gothy Beans November 20, 2012, 03:12:08 PM
I'm happy to view on Facebook as long as voting is as far away from that site as humanly possible.  :smile: I know I'm not in the running, but I want to see some of those cracking figures get a fair shot.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 20, 2012, 04:32:14 PM
a lot of them will go into production however niche they may initially seem, HF has always been about promoting new talent.  we invest quite a lot financially in sculpting competitions from the giving away of the armatures and postage costs to the prizes, the time spent editing and judging and chasing entries up through to production and master moulds and physical castings.

but i like seeing what people make!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock November 20, 2012, 04:43:37 PM
Sounds fair to me.

Question: Only 3/4 of my entrys were posted. Did I do something wrong with the 4th? They were all sent in the same email.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 20, 2012, 05:04:32 PM
Sounds fair to me.

Question: Only 3/4 of my entrys were posted. Did I do something wrong with the 4th? They were all sent in the same email.

Weren't we allowed just one entry per person per category? I think that'd be why
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock November 20, 2012, 05:10:14 PM
Sounds fair to me.

Question: Only 3/4 of my entrys were posted. Did I do something wrong with the 4th? They were all sent in the same email.

Weren't we allowed just one entry per person per category? I think that'd be why

Naw, I swear it said in the email that you can enter as many times as you want. It might have been because I mixed a tiny amount of fimo into my GS mix.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 20, 2012, 06:09:40 PM
no, it probably just got lost in the huge amount of image work i did today, i shall go look for it.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 20, 2012, 06:20:51 PM
Okees, just uploaded 6 missing pics ... phew!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 20, 2012, 06:30:17 PM
Thanks for getting on the missing ones so fast Sally, mine are there now :D

Do you suppose these will be in store by christmas, perchance? It would be the perfect excuse to spend lots of money   :lalala:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: voltan November 20, 2012, 06:31:56 PM
My entries missing.....






But that's coz I haven't finished it yet  :angel:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 20, 2012, 06:33:43 PM
You may have skipped a little beyond 'cutting it fine' =/
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Grulgor November 20, 2012, 06:45:26 PM
Weee and mines appeared, thanks for putting my mind at ease! That's certainly a whole hell of a lot of entries  :whaaa:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso November 20, 2012, 06:49:23 PM
Do you suppose these will be in store by christmas, perchance? It would be the perfect excuse to spend lots of money   :lalala:

74 miniatures, sent in, adjusted for casting, sent for casting, being cast, sent back, bagged up and then put in the shop before Christmas... which is just over a month away?

I know Hasslefree are pretty cool but I doubt that even they have a miracle machine ;)!

I wonder how many spin-cast moulds it would take to cast them all? 7? That's a big investment and will take time to sort out.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock November 20, 2012, 06:51:19 PM
no, it probably just got lost in the huge amount of image work i did today, i shall go look for it.

Horray!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake November 20, 2012, 07:03:29 PM
I'll have to wait until I get home from work to see if mine is there. Work doesn't allow facebook. Which is a bit annoying as I can only view things on my iPod at home since the home computer crapped out.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin November 20, 2012, 07:28:43 PM
mine are all there,  but to be honest the good uns knock my "happy putty pushing"  into a cocked hat.
some of them are very very good, and i take my hat off to the folks that did them.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: No Head Ned November 20, 2012, 09:29:25 PM
Okay, i have got the initial pics of all of the entries onto the Facebook page.

I am concerned with 74 pictures about it affecting the running of the FOD.  All of the pics are variable sizes and the folder with the jpgs in runs at 43MB.  I dont have a problem popping it on one of our dedicated image servers but will need to edit them all individually to ensure that none go over 800 pixels wide or it might not load on the FOD.

Shall i get them on here or are you happy to browse Facebook?

I can see a problem with those who do not have Facebook accounts so if you are happy to bear with me a little while longer i will fit in reducing their sizes a bit to make browsing on here easier.

is that okay?

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.496503997048549.113778.205953016103650&type=1

I'm not logged on to facebook (don't have an account, don't want one, don't get me started) when I click on the link all I can see is the first 28 images. The only way I can see them all is if I click on the first image for the larger view, then click on "next" and go through them one by one.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: The Keyman November 20, 2012, 10:38:58 PM
Just a question :

In the rules, was it wrote something about the picture's size? I think yes, but when I compare my picture with some other, mine seems very little (and above all with less visible details) :blink:

Maybe I didn't understand rules (d'ont forget I'm french ;))
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 20, 2012, 11:09:25 PM
rules said 800x800
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bungle November 20, 2012, 11:22:18 PM
rules said 800x800

.... but will need to edit them all individually to ensure that none go over 800 pixels wide or it might not load on the FOD.

So I guess a few might have been bigger
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mr Teufel November 21, 2012, 12:54:46 AM
There are 80 ENTRIES on FB!! 80!  :jawdrop: :faint:

And a fair percentage are professional level... :respect: to all the entrants.

 Boy is this one going to be hard on the judges!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 21, 2012, 07:38:58 AM
foo on the judges, it's going to be hard on my wallet :'(
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake November 21, 2012, 09:20:19 AM
I can see one of mine but the rest of the pics won't load for me which is a bit of a pain. Computer comes back tomorrow so I should have better luck then. Some nice shots of others. Nice to see mine has 11 likes. That makes me happy. Will a poll be put up here? Even with just a link to pictures? :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 21, 2012, 10:55:26 AM
Thanks for getting on the missing ones so fast Sally, mine are there now :D

Do you suppose these will be in store by christmas, perchance? It would be the perfect excuse to spend lots of money   :lalala:

nope, not a hope.  I am sending out the newsletter today with the details of where to send all of the entries and asking people to check the pics to make sure their entry is there so we can get them divided into categories and judging started.

there is another HF release in about a week/10 days .. i am sure i can persuade you to part with some cash then!...lol!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 21, 2012, 10:56:39 AM
Ya gotta realise that Hasslefree is two people. They've got to run a business, take care of three (possibly four?*) kids, sculpt new figures, and judge this comp. I'm sure they want to judge this comp, from what they've said they love the level of quality the competitors have brought! I feel they may have been surprised by that and the number of entries** - both which make judging it more difficult.

*gluttons for punishment!

**They've run sculpting comps before on this site. Judgement was delayed by real life then, too. But I don't remember anything like the variety or skill or number of entries that this comp has attracted. So Good On You, Competitors!

I forgot to say "thanks for this".  :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 21, 2012, 11:04:23 AM
Just a question :

In the rules, was it wrote something about the picture's size? I think yes, but when I compare my picture with some other, mine seems very little (and above all with less visible details) :blink:

Maybe I didn't understand rules (d'ont forget I'm french ;))

the image you sent was 558 x 800 which is the one that i used.  if you want to send over a larger image that we can use when we get to judging that is fine!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 21, 2012, 11:05:52 AM
I can see one of mine but the rest of the pics won't load for me which is a bit of a pain. Computer comes back tomorrow so I should have better luck then. Some nice shots of others. Nice to see mine has 11 likes. That makes me happy. Will a poll be put up here? Even with just a link to pictures? :)

We have had to rethink the judging method but yes i will get all of the pics up here.  i am chasing up missing ones at the moment but when i get a few hours i can get them up, hopefully tonight if i am not too tired :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 21, 2012, 11:32:20 AM
Might help save you some time; Throwing up a webpage to spit out all the images in a folder would only take a few lines of code, then you could direct people to that page rather than trying to individually list 80+ pictures on the forum. It would also mean you didn't need to resize them.

Something to consider! I could send you the page you'd need, if you like :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: alrith72 November 21, 2012, 11:34:10 AM
Hi Sally, sorry to be a pain but my entry doesn't appear to be on the facebook album. I did get the email to say you had it so i know you've seen it. Maybe you mentally filtered it out as it's so bad  :silly

Al
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 21, 2012, 12:28:36 PM
Might help save you some time; Throwing up a webpage to spit out all the images in a folder would only take a few lines of code, then you could direct people to that page rather than trying to individually list 80+ pictures on the forum. It would also mean you didn't need to resize them.

Something to consider! I could send you the page you'd need, if you like :P

that sounds interesting.  the main issue that i have is they vary in width from between 233 pixels to 1700 pixels so i was facing the job of trying to resize them to 600 pixels wide before uploading them to our spare server and then getting the links on here.  Any advice for saving me a job is helpful and very very much appreciated!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 21, 2012, 12:28:53 PM
Hi Sally, sorry to be a pain but my entry doesn't appear to be on the facebook album. I did get the email to say you had it so i know you've seen it. Maybe you mentally filtered it out as it's so bad  :silly

Al

shall go and look now for you Al :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: libertee November 21, 2012, 12:33:44 PM
found them, will have them online shortly!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: The Keyman November 21, 2012, 01:11:27 PM
the image you sent was 558 x 800 which is the one that i used.  if you want to send over a larger image that we can use when we get to judging that is fine!

If I can, I will ;)
Thank's
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 21, 2012, 01:13:37 PM
Might help save you some time; Throwing up a webpage to spit out all the images in a folder would only take a few lines of code, then you could direct people to that page rather than trying to individually list 80+ pictures on the forum. It would also mean you didn't need to resize them.

Something to consider! I could send you the page you'd need, if you like :P

that sounds interesting.  the main issue that i have is they vary in width from between 233 pixels to 1700 pixels so i was facing the job of trying to resize them to 600 pixels wide before uploading them to our spare server and then getting the links on here.  Any advice for saving me a job is helpful and very very much appreciated!

Sent that to you in an email :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gothy Beans November 21, 2012, 02:39:26 PM
Might help save you some time; Throwing up a webpage to spit out all the images in a folder would only take a few lines of code, then you could direct people to that page rather than trying to individually list 80+ pictures on the forum. It would also mean you didn't need to resize them.

Something to consider! I could send you the page you'd need, if you like :P

that sounds interesting.  the main issue that i have is they vary in width from between 233 pixels to 1700 pixels so i was facing the job of trying to resize them to 600 pixels wide before uploading them to our spare server and then getting the links on here.  Any advice for saving me a job is helpful and very very much appreciated!
I could do that for you and put them in a .zip if you like. Got a photography program that would do it in a few seconds without wrecking the images. :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 21, 2012, 03:03:57 PM
Might help save you some time; Throwing up a webpage to spit out all the images in a folder would only take a few lines of code, then you could direct people to that page rather than trying to individually list 80+ pictures on the forum. It would also mean you didn't need to resize them.

Something to consider! I could send you the page you'd need, if you like :P

that sounds interesting.  the main issue that i have is they vary in width from between 233 pixels to 1700 pixels so i was facing the job of trying to resize them to 600 pixels wide before uploading them to our spare server and then getting the links on here.  Any advice for saving me a job is helpful and very very much appreciated!
I could do that for you and put them in a .zip if you like. Got a photography program that would do it in a few seconds without wrecking the images. :)

unpaid labour :D the egyptians got something right!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gothy Beans November 21, 2012, 03:17:09 PM
Might help save you some time; Throwing up a webpage to spit out all the images in a folder would only take a few lines of code, then you could direct people to that page rather than trying to individually list 80+ pictures on the forum. It would also mean you didn't need to resize them.

Something to consider! I could send you the page you'd need, if you like :P

that sounds interesting.  the main issue that i have is they vary in width from between 233 pixels to 1700 pixels so i was facing the job of trying to resize them to 600 pixels wide before uploading them to our spare server and then getting the links on here.  Any advice for saving me a job is helpful and very very much appreciated!
I could do that for you and put them in a .zip if you like. Got a photography program that would do it in a few seconds without wrecking the images. :)

unpaid labour :D the egyptians got something right!
I've had enough sweeties off HF in the past to fuel hours of work.  :yup: Especially as I get to eat Gangrel's too.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mr Teufel November 21, 2012, 03:29:42 PM
Ya gotta realise that Hasslefree is two people...

I forgot to say "thanks for this".  :)
  :oops: No worries. (84 entries!? I'm gobsmacked!)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: alrith72 November 21, 2012, 03:51:25 PM
Hi Sally, sorry to be a pain but my entry doesn't appear to be on the facebook album. I did get the email to say you had it so i know you've seen it. Maybe you mentally filtered it out as it's so bad  :silly

Al

shall go and look now for you Al :)

Thanks Sally  :smile:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock November 21, 2012, 05:36:07 PM
Thanks for getting on the missing ones so fast Sally, mine are there now :D

Do you suppose these will be in store by christmas, perchance? It would be the perfect excuse to spend lots of money   :lalala:

nope, not a hope.  I am sending out the newsletter today with the details of where to send all of the entries and asking people to check the pics to make sure their entry is there so we can get them divided into categories and judging started.

there is another HF release in about a week/10 days .. i am sure i can persuade you to part with some cash then!...lol!

So you haven't ruled out any of the entrys as uncastable? Just want to make sure before I send in all my entrys only to have my fave lost in the either X3 (they are like first born!)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 21, 2012, 05:48:06 PM
You'd send your firstborn away to be dipped in a mould and cast in metal?

Dude.

Hmm. At least a lead baby wouldn't cry...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Pleasurepain November 21, 2012, 07:37:07 PM
You'd send your firstborn away to be dipped in a mould and cast in metal?

 :whaaa:

Your first-born child? That's sick mate!








Resin surely?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 21, 2012, 07:37:43 PM
hahaha
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock November 21, 2012, 07:39:43 PM
You'd send your firstborn away to be dipped in a mould and cast in metal?

 :whaaa:

Your first-born child? That's sick mate!








Resin surely?

Fingers crossed :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gothy Beans November 22, 2012, 07:40:57 PM
Thanks for getting on the missing ones so fast Sally, mine are there now :D

Do you suppose these will be in store by christmas, perchance? It would be the perfect excuse to spend lots of money   :lalala:

nope, not a hope.  I am sending out the newsletter today with the details of where to send all of the entries and asking people to check the pics to make sure their entry is there so we can get them divided into categories and judging started.

there is another HF release in about a week/10 days .. i am sure i can persuade you to part with some cash then!...lol!

So you haven't ruled out any of the entrys as uncastable? Just want to make sure before I send in all my entrys only to have my fave lost in the either X3 (they are like first born!)
I wouldn't assume anything until Kev sees them in the flesh so to speak. I have my doubts about several entries being single-piece. All it takes is an awkward crevice...

If you're worried about them going missing, just spring for the extra 90p to send them recorded in the post. ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 22, 2012, 08:07:08 PM
Some of them look like there might be some problems casting them, too =/. I'm certainly no expert but I see a few where I suspect the greenstuff will just get plucked right off if they're moulded :(
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock November 22, 2012, 10:13:42 PM
Thanks for getting on the missing ones so fast Sally, mine are there now :D

Do you suppose these will be in store by christmas, perchance? It would be the perfect excuse to spend lots of money   :lalala:

nope, not a hope.  I am sending out the newsletter today with the details of where to send all of the entries and asking people to check the pics to make sure their entry is there so we can get them divided into categories and judging started.

there is another HF release in about a week/10 days .. i am sure i can persuade you to part with some cash then!...lol!

So you haven't ruled out any of the entrys as uncastable? Just want to make sure before I send in all my entrys only to have my fave lost in the either X3 (they are like first born!)
I wouldn't assume anything until Kev sees them in the flesh so to speak. I have my doubts about several entries being single-piece. All it takes is an awkward crevice...

If you're worried about them going missing, just spring for the extra 90p to send them recorded in the post. ;)
I was more worried of a mini being sent off and not cast and thus never seeing it again ; ;
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 22, 2012, 10:15:46 PM
Knowing how decent the people at HF are I expect they'll be more than willing to ship uncastables back, if people identify them and pay the postage fee :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gothy Beans November 23, 2012, 09:30:53 PM
Thanks for getting on the missing ones so fast Sally, mine are there now :D

Do you suppose these will be in store by christmas, perchance? It would be the perfect excuse to spend lots of money   :lalala:

nope, not a hope.  I am sending out the newsletter today with the details of where to send all of the entries and asking people to check the pics to make sure their entry is there so we can get them divided into categories and judging started.

there is another HF release in about a week/10 days .. i am sure i can persuade you to part with some cash then!...lol!

So you haven't ruled out any of the entrys as uncastable? Just want to make sure before I send in all my entrys only to have my fave lost in the either X3 (they are like first born!)
I wouldn't assume anything until Kev sees them in the flesh so to speak. I have my doubts about several entries being single-piece. All it takes is an awkward crevice...

If you're worried about them going missing, just spring for the extra 90p to send them recorded in the post. ;)
I was more worried of a mini being sent off and not cast and thus never seeing it again ; ;
I don't think there is ANY chance of that. HF might be busy, but they're lovely people who can't do enough to help customers and fans.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso November 24, 2012, 06:25:38 PM
I've sent my sculpt off now :)

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: PossumCraft November 24, 2012, 06:32:03 PM
eek, did I miss being told when/where to send?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso November 24, 2012, 07:26:55 PM
Check your e-mails... it was in the last news letter:

"We are now going to need you to send your entries to us, we are going to be doing a lot of moulding to ensure you all get free copies of your entries plus the winners, the sooner we get started the better!

Make sure they are packed securely and safely and pop them in the post to us at:

Sculpting Competition.

Hasslefree Minis

First Floor, 19 Moseley Street

Ripley, Derbyshire, UK

DE5 3DA.
"
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake November 24, 2012, 07:58:04 PM
My two went yesterday as well.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 24, 2012, 07:59:25 PM
missed that totally. better send mine off monday :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Macabre November 24, 2012, 08:10:18 PM
Nawwww crap, a piece came off mine when I tried to pack her and it'll need resculpting. I guess that puts me out of the whole thing..... :erm:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mr Teufel November 25, 2012, 12:59:43 AM
I'd email them.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock November 26, 2012, 07:28:45 AM
Thanks for getting on the missing ones so fast Sally, mine are there now :D

Do you suppose these will be in store by christmas, perchance? It would be the perfect excuse to spend lots of money   :lalala:

nope, not a hope.  I am sending out the newsletter today with the details of where to send all of the entries and asking people to check the pics to make sure their entry is there so we can get them divided into categories and judging started.

there is another HF release in about a week/10 days .. i am sure i can persuade you to part with some cash then!...lol!

So you haven't ruled out any of the entrys as uncastable? Just want to make sure before I send in all my entrys only to have my fave lost in the either X3 (they are like first born!)
I wouldn't assume anything until Kev sees them in the flesh so to speak. I have my doubts about several entries being single-piece. All it takes is an awkward crevice...

If you're worried about them going missing, just spring for the extra 90p to send them recorded in the post. ;)
I was more worried of a mini being sent off and not cast and thus never seeing it again ; ;
I don't think there is ANY chance of that. HF might be busy, but they're lovely people who can't do enough to help customers and fans.
oops, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cause offence. I thought I read somewhere that they wouldn't be able to return unused greens. Must have been another comp somewhere. ;) Sending off my Entrys tonight!
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: libertee November 28, 2012, 10:42:12 AM

oops, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cause offence. I thought I read somewhere that they wouldn't be able to return unused greens. Must have been another comp somewhere. ;) Sending off my Entrys tonight!

if we cant cast it and you want it back then dont worry it will come back to you!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock November 28, 2012, 12:22:26 PM

oops, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cause offence. I thought I read somewhere that they wouldn't be able to return unused greens. Must have been another comp somewhere. ;) Sending off my Entrys tonight!

if we cant cast it and you want it back then dont worry it will come back to you!
Horray X3
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft November 28, 2012, 12:38:10 PM
sendied mine orf yesterday. Should arrive today =]
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: Internalclock November 28, 2012, 02:16:57 PM
My wife betrade me and forgot to pick up my envilope!
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: PossumCraft November 28, 2012, 02:18:01 PM
you'll forgive her :P
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: beefcake November 28, 2012, 07:16:44 PM
... eventually  :wink:
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: Leader of the Rats November 29, 2012, 01:37:08 AM
Oh man glad I checked the forum, I didn't get an email about that. I'll send mine out asap. Should I send in a box or padded envelope? My entry is pretty flat without any pieces that could break off, I can wrap it in the little foam squares you get in minis blisters. Whats the preferred method?
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: Internalclock November 29, 2012, 07:20:36 AM
Oh man glad I checked the forum, I didn't get an email about that. I'll send mine out asap. Should I send in a box or padded envelope? My entry is pretty flat without any pieces that could break off, I can wrap it in the little foam squares you get in minis blisters. Whats the preferred method?

Mine are in a takeaway tub that I put foam in and cut out slots for the greens, then they are in a padded envilope.
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: libertee November 29, 2012, 08:42:47 AM
Oh man glad I checked the forum, I didn't get an email about that. I'll send mine out asap. Should I send in a box or padded envelope? My entry is pretty flat without any pieces that could break off, I can wrap it in the little foam squares you get in minis blisters. Whats the preferred method?

the email went out to the entire website customer database cos i assumed they had bought an armature from the website in order to enter!....lol!  You will need to check the email address that you registered on the website with and then check the spam folder and mark it as 'not spam' that way you wont miss anything in the future ( including discount codes!)
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: Internalclock November 29, 2012, 09:05:25 AM
Woohoo! Its in the post, super dooper tracked next day delivery!...

Damn it! I forgot to put in the Candy!  :blub: What a fail, how will I win without sweet briberys!  :tears:
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: libertee November 29, 2012, 10:20:30 AM
Woohoo! Its in the post, super dooper tracked next day delivery!...

Damn it! I forgot to put in the Candy!  :blub: What a fail, how will I win without sweet briberys!  :tears:

ahh, i cant be bribed..... everyone knows that.  anyhow it isnt me voting!
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: PossumCraft November 29, 2012, 10:32:24 AM
Who's voting? can THEY be bribed?
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: libertee November 29, 2012, 12:04:45 PM
nope. completely unbribable
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: Gangrel November 29, 2012, 01:27:15 PM
Sally, Kev, I sent you a PM a couple of days ago; any chance you could take a look if you get a spare minute?

Best,
Mike
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: PossumCraft November 29, 2012, 02:39:31 PM
Mine were meant to be delivered yesterday :P hope they arrived
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: Oddvar December 02, 2012, 03:58:07 AM
This is so cool! I am pissed I missed out on this opportunity... Are you guys going to be having another one any time soon?
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: PossumCraft December 02, 2012, 08:43:49 AM
they do it each year
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: libertee December 02, 2012, 09:18:24 AM
they do it each year

every couple of years usually....its quite a lot of extra work for us.

i havent checked the ones that arrived yesterday yet....sorry :(
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: PossumCraft December 02, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
Mine were meant to arrive Wednesday :S I hope royal mail didn't eat them -.-'
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: Grulgor December 02, 2012, 04:48:50 PM
Aye mine were meant to arrive tuesday to wednesday too so I'm hoping it's just a case of the busy christmas rush! Sent a little note in too with my email etc before I realised they were writing on the facebook pictures once they'd received them. I'll go but my patient and calm hat on  :wink:
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: PossumCraft December 02, 2012, 04:56:56 PM
I put 100 of insurance on mine so at least if they vanish into the system my fiance gets a doubly nice chrimbo pressie courtesy of royal mail :P
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: Oddvar December 02, 2012, 06:41:53 PM
Well right on I cannot wait till the next one! And a huge cudos goes to the competitors this year because your sculpts rock so hard!! I am very excited about a community like this as I am a brand new sculptor. Thanks to HF for supporting something this cool, right on!!
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: PossumCraft December 02, 2012, 06:43:36 PM
Oh they've done a really fantastic job! More than just sculpting for grats, the chance to have something you've made be cast in metal and for sale is epic :D
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: Macabre December 03, 2012, 12:00:44 AM
I will send mine in the post next week as I have been busy with an xmas/birthday weekend with my partner and my folks ^_^
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: Internalclock December 03, 2012, 03:01:39 PM
Aye mine were meant to arrive tuesday to wednesday too so I'm hoping it's just a case of the busy christmas rush! Sent a little note in too with my email etc before I realised they were writing on the facebook pictures once they'd received them. I'll go but my patient and calm hat on  :wink:

Where does it say If they have recieved your entrys or not?
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: PossumCraft December 03, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
Just a few in the gallery on fb have comments saying they've been recieved
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: alrith72 December 03, 2012, 04:44:53 PM
Only managed to get mine in the post today, been hell at work,  hope that is o.k  :(
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: Steel Penguin December 03, 2012, 05:29:35 PM
sent mine by post today.  whew anouther load of my mind
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: Leader of the Rats December 04, 2012, 02:58:43 AM
I hope it's not breaking the rules but after reading some posts about sculpts not being castable I took a good close look with a magnifying glass at mine and found that a couple areas might be a problem. Notably the strings holding her chest piece on and a small section of where the hair meets the neck. So I stuffed a tiny bit of GS here and there to fix it. I hope that makes it castable and theres nothing else I might not be aware of. The changes I did didn't modify the model in any significant way. Off in the mail it is.
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: Wolfbane December 08, 2012, 06:48:04 PM
Maybe I didn't understand... I didn't know I have to send the green to Hasslefree... or the chosen only must do that?
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: PossumCraft December 08, 2012, 06:51:08 PM
Everyone has to send them in. They will then cast every entry in metal I believe
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: Steel Penguin December 08, 2012, 09:02:07 PM
Wolfbane,  Rule number 3 in Libertees initial post on the 1st page, says as much.
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: The Keyman December 09, 2012, 09:54:57 PM
I've sent mine (Men's Hunters) one week ago from France. Did you receive anything?
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: Alexander The Alchemist December 18, 2012, 04:30:05 PM
Bloody thieving post office.... I can't afford to ship mine in time. It'd ridiculously (prohibitively even) expensive to send anything from Canada to the UK at short notice. 70$ for 3-5 week delivery.... Bah. Guess I'll have to drop out.
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: PossumCraft December 18, 2012, 04:33:46 PM
the hell? I've had stuff sent from and sent it back to canada on a few days' delivery for about 7.00
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: Dethkor December 18, 2012, 05:49:40 PM
Alex, I sent mine in for a total cost of $8.88 Canadian, albeit about about three weeks ago.
Yours won't make it there before Christmas, but that shouldn't matter.  Definitely send them in, can't hurt.
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: leadhead December 19, 2012, 03:16:32 AM
How are you trying to send it?  I've recently sent rather heavy boxes to the uk for under $40, heck may have even been under 30.  Sent from BC for that matter.  They weren't very small boxes either.  But yes, Can post are crooks.
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: Alexander The Alchemist December 26, 2012, 07:49:37 PM
I asked for a range of prices, and to get it to the UK in a reasonable time is more than I can afford. I could send it cheaper, but then there's no tracking number and no guarantee it gets there at all. I don't know what the deadline for sending them in is, but I may be able to do it after I sort out january rent/bills.
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: daeothar January 13, 2013, 09:37:39 PM
Not to be a 'uge pain et all, but I've already sent 3 emails to the hasslefree address regarding the safe arrival of my entry, without a reply and I'm starting to worry it never arrived... 8:::

I can see a lot of 'safely received' comments on the facebook page, but not with the picture of my entry, and I sent it at the beginning of November already. I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason for the radio silence, but I still thought to try over here as well... :erm:

Anyone else experiencing this?
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: Artemis Black January 13, 2013, 10:02:14 PM
Not to be a 'uge pain et all, but I've already sent 3 emails to the hasslefree address regarding the safe arrival of my entry, without a reply and I'm starting to worry it never arrived... 8:::

I can see a lot of 'safely received' comments on the facebook page, but not with the picture of my entry, and I sent it at the beginning of November already. I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason for the radio silence, but I still thought to try over here as well... :erm:

Anyone else experiencing this?

Forward your enquiry to dameon@hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk and I'll make sure Sal sees it. I could answer you myself but Sal is handling the sculpting contest personally so I have no idea I'm afraid.
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: Gangrel January 13, 2013, 10:03:13 PM
I'm sure it's just a time thing. I handed mine and Gothy Beans' entry over in person. Hers is listed as having arrived, mine isn't. Sure, it would be reassuring to have that confirmation, but I'm sure Sally will get around to it.
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: beefcake January 14, 2013, 03:08:43 AM
Where's this list?
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: PossumCraft January 14, 2013, 07:22:14 AM
There is no list, but some of the entries have been noted as received in the facebook album.

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: daeothar January 14, 2013, 07:33:59 AM
Forward your enquiry to dameon@hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk and I'll make sure Sal sees it. I could answer you myself but Sal is handling the sculpting contest personally so I have no idea I'm afraid.
Thanks for that Dameon. I've forwarded my email to you just now.

I'm normally not that nervous; maybe I should cut down on the paint fumes for a while... :crazy:
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: Internalclock January 15, 2013, 07:36:11 AM
Just got back from a month in Canada... Are all the entrys in yet?
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: beefcake January 15, 2013, 07:37:40 AM
 :shrug:
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: libertee January 15, 2013, 10:21:01 AM
Just got back from a month in Canada... Are all the entrys in yet?

not yet, about 15 more arrived in the last couple of days, i am just opening them now and will log them onto the FB gallery.

i have sourced an online polling website separate to Facebook or FOD where i will upload the images in the various categories and people will be able to log in and vote.  it was hard trying to find an online polling site where they would let me upload 90+ images for people to vote on without charging me exortionate amounts!

I will give it to the end of the week for any more entries to arrive then will get the poll up regardless.
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: Gangrel January 15, 2013, 12:37:59 PM
Hi Sally,

Just double checking (as I am fully qualified to worry for my country). I handed my entry to Kev, back in December, along with GB's. Hers is listed on FB as having been received, but mine isn't I'm hoping that's just a slip of the keyboard.

Best,
Mike
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: beefcake January 15, 2013, 06:41:43 PM
Just to check, did my gorgon/lamia and the head crab victim arrive?
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: libertee January 15, 2013, 07:06:53 PM
will go see!
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: beefcake January 15, 2013, 07:56:07 PM
Thanks. Not urgent though. If they haven't arrived there's nothing I can do.
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: daeothar January 16, 2013, 11:28:54 AM
Well, I'd still appreciate a bit of confirmation though... :whistle:
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: leadhead January 17, 2013, 04:14:29 AM
Just got back from a month in Canada

How'd ya like it over here?
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: Internalclock January 17, 2013, 07:43:55 AM
Well, It wasnt Real Canada. My Wife is a newfoundlander so It was all spent visiting family out in the bouneys (sp?). Had a great time except that they didnt get any proper snow till the day we arrived home ; ;. 5ft in one day! That would have been awesome to see.
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: Dethkor January 17, 2013, 10:50:09 AM
Had a great time except that they didnt get any proper snow till the day we arrived home ; ;. 5ft in one day! That would have been awesome to see.

  :lol: Spoken like someone who doesn't have to shove it!
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: Internalclock January 18, 2013, 08:02:25 AM
Had a great time except that they didnt get any proper snow till the day we arrived home ; ;. 5ft in one day! That would have been awesome to see.

  :lol: Spoken like someone who doesn't have to shove it!

Shovel it? I wanted to play with the snow blower X3
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: Dethkor January 18, 2013, 09:28:35 AM
Had a great time except that they didnt get any proper snow till the day we arrived home ; ;. 5ft in one day! That would have been awesome to see.

  :lol: Spoken like someone who doesn't have to shove it!

Shovel it? I wanted to play with the snow blower X3

I'll invite you over next time we get a big snow!
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: leadhead January 19, 2013, 04:30:35 AM
Well, It wasnt Real Canada. My Wife is a newfoundlander

Were you out on "The Rock" as it were or were you on the mainland, Labrador?  Real Canada as I see it, goes from BC where I am, east to the eastern edge of Ontario, then there's a big gap between Newfoundland and Ontario, with some island provinces hanging out a bit south mostly west of the Rock.  I don't really know what the gap is some awful place called Kweebeek, I've heard. :lmao
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: Dethkor January 19, 2013, 11:54:17 AM

[/quote]
  I don't really know what the gap is some awful place called Kweebeek, I've heard. :lmao
[/quote]

It's called Le Kweebeek La.  They look like us, eat like us and can drink like us but they sound totally different eh.  I know 'cause I live on the river that borders the big gap  :lmao

P.S.  It's snowing again.
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: leadhead January 19, 2013, 03:16:22 PM
Is the river frozen at this point?  Thankfully out here on the Wet West Coast, snow rarely lasts for more than two days, if it sticks at all and doesn't melt straight away.
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: Internalclock January 21, 2013, 08:03:07 AM
I flew into st johns in Newfoundland and then stayed with the inlaws in Carbonear. From what I heard, Labrador is a whole lot of wilderness and not a lot else. I could understand 90% of what most people said and then only 10% of the rest. Though I have spent the past 5 years saying "mate" where they say "maid".
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: caerban January 21, 2013, 09:34:03 AM
Ah, St. Johns. I spent a few crazy and coincidentally snow filled days there when I was a fisheries observer for the EU (there's a Spanish/Portuguese fishery just outside of Canadian national waters). Nice town... baaaaaaaad rum.
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: PossumCraft January 25, 2013, 02:25:18 PM
Any word on the poll for this? :O
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: Mr Teufel January 25, 2013, 02:39:07 PM
Try here. (http://forum-of-doom.com/index.php?topic=16546.msg261586#msg261586)
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: PossumCraft January 25, 2013, 04:26:52 PM
..?
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: Inso January 25, 2013, 05:30:11 PM
Any word on the poll for this? :O

Not yet.

The link that Mr Teufel showed is for a different competition so don't worry (it is for the now finished UDoD 12 competition).
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: PossumCraft January 25, 2013, 05:31:03 PM
when's udod 13? :D
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: Mr Teufel January 26, 2013, 12:57:08 AM
..?
Oops! My mistake.  :oops:

The sculpting comp is going to take time, I guess. 85+ entries have to get to Hasslefree Central, then they cast masters, then they judge.
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: PossumCraft January 26, 2013, 03:07:29 AM
Yeah just wondered cos a couple weeks back Sally was saying she had a poll setup to post in a week :P
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: Grulgor February 05, 2013, 08:04:23 PM
Plus I sent mine in the week they asked for them and it's still not been labelled as having arrived, even sent it recorded in panic of losing my first sculpting competition entry!
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: Inso February 05, 2013, 08:33:17 PM
when's udod 13? :D

Funny you should ask that...

http://forum-of-doom.com/index.php?topic=16574.0
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: Coenus February 11, 2013, 04:12:34 PM
Just wondering, what kind of public poll will it be, and won't it be a bit susceptible to fraud? Not that any of you would do such things, of course...  :paranoid2:

Aside from that, I assume you at HF would be much better judges of the miniatures (y'know, having knowledge of sculpting (that's for sure!), having the actual models to look at instead of some pictures) and it probably takes more time to upload all picturs in some complicated poll than to have a look at 'em.. no?

Also: hi!  :silly

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: Bergil February 19, 2013, 12:11:19 PM
It'll happen when it happens.
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: Coenus February 21, 2013, 04:28:04 PM
It'll happen when it happens.
Y'know, you might just be right...
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: No Head Ned March 05, 2013, 01:35:45 PM
For those of you Luddites like me who refuse to use facebook, this from the hasslefree page:

Finally after months of illness, lurgy and operations we are getting images uploaded. One issue we had to deal with and one that concerned a number of people online is that we had to make sure the poll provider could allow us to stop people voting more than once. We seem to have finally found one that will allow us unlimited image uploads and block people from repeating votes!

It doesnt look very glamorous yet i know and is very basic but would appreciate if you could all help me test it before i sign over my financial soul and multiple hours resizing images.

Thankyou lots !

Sally :)

http://www.addpoll.com/mrshasslefree/poll/217525


Apologies if this has already been posted somewhere else on the FOD.
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: Coenus March 07, 2013, 12:09:07 PM
Thanks!
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: Steel Penguin March 07, 2013, 07:02:53 PM
the first 2 are good ideas,  number 3 is bad,  i wouldant registar my e-mail addy to vote, as wile i trust HF, an unknown poll site  nope.
but waiting and hopeing...
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: PossumCraft March 07, 2013, 07:22:29 PM
Need to use the email as it's the only slightly troublesome one to dupe.
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: Internalclock March 18, 2013, 08:13:06 AM
Woooo! Progress ^^
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: daeothar April 08, 2013, 09:06:20 AM
Soo...

Bueler. Bueler. Bueler... :erm:

It's been over six months now; how about a bit of a progress update, eh? :whistle:
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: PossumCraft April 08, 2013, 09:09:44 AM
I expect everyone at HF is busy prepping for salute and reapercon atm
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: Gangrel April 08, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
Soo...

Bueler. Bueler. Bueler... :erm:

It's been over six months now; how about a bit of a progress update, eh? :whistle:

I think PossumCraft is right. It'll happen when there's free time from the 'real' business. Until then, look at all the pretties and talk to all the nice people!   :D
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: Coenus April 08, 2013, 05:58:01 PM
That reminds me - at some point it was said somewhere that putting the destined categories for each entry next to the pic in the facebook folder would speed up the process, IIRC.
Could any of you with a facebook account please, please, pretty please make sure that my beloved Brynhildr, shown below, gets placed in the Fantasy competition?
I think she was in one of the first couple of rows.
Thanks a lot!  :thumbup:

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa378/DiomedesOfArgos/Brynhildr_composite.jpg)
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: PossumCraft April 08, 2013, 06:01:46 PM
Don't think you have to worry :P chainmail, shield and axe puts her firmly in fantasy by anyone's reckoning ;D
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: Coenus April 10, 2013, 02:19:33 PM
If you're 100% certain nobody could mistake the shield for a forcefield generator, the axe for a futuristic tree-cutting tool and the chainmail for a nice knitting pattern.. I suppose I'm safe, yes.
Unless she's a re-enactor of course, modern person dressed like a historical/fantasy one...  :angel:
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: beefcake April 29, 2013, 08:27:35 AM
Any further news about this from facebook. I know Reapercon has taken up time though :)
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: PossumCraft April 29, 2013, 08:30:53 AM
none
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: Inso April 29, 2013, 08:58:38 AM
The news is that Sally and Kev returned to the UK yesterday. Sally was up at stupid O'Clock this morning with four wide-awake children who are still on US time so she will be keeping them off school today and hopefully get them to sleep at the correct time tonight.

As you can imagine, I doubt that the sculpting competition is on their radar... let alone on their jobs to do list at the moment.

I am sure that the sculpting competition will get sorted but I doubt it is at the top of the priorities because of recent events... Reapercon was one of them but Salute will need to be sorted because Sally will want to sort out all of the cash and ensure that everything is sorted (even though Damean and Neil will have sorted it out ;) ).

Have patience... and you will be rewarded.

Like I have already said... last time around took about a year and there were a fraction of the sculpts that this competition generated. I am sure that there are lots of things to think about before the casting even gets started.

I assure you all that your sculpts will be safe.
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: PossumCraft April 29, 2013, 09:03:49 AM
Might be a tad bit late now, but the way to get back on your timezone is to stay awake till you literally can't anymore :P
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: ironmammoth June 27, 2013, 01:14:54 PM
Any news on the Sculpting Competition?
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: Ben Brownlie June 27, 2013, 01:40:04 PM
Any news on the Sculpting Competition?

Inka will be cross with you  for not paying attention!

http://forum-of-doom.com/index.php?topic=16849.msg265505#msg265505
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: Internalclock June 27, 2013, 01:52:41 PM
Surly this is in referance to two sepirate Comps?
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: PossumCraft June 27, 2013, 02:12:33 PM
It is two separate things entirely :P Mammoth is asking about Hasslefree's sculpting comp of late last year and Ben is talking about the as-yet unstarted UDOD2013.

There hasn't been any word on the sculpting comp in some time Mammoth, I believe it's been put on the shelf and buried in a mountain of other stuff that's going on. Fingers crossed they'll get around to updating us sometime soon.
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: Internalclock June 27, 2013, 02:20:50 PM
It is two separate things entirely :P Mammoth is asking about Hasslefree's sculpting comp of late last year and Ben is talking about the as-yet unstarted UDOD2013.

There hasn't been any word on the sculpting comp in some time Mammoth, I believe it's been put on the shelf and buried in a mountain of other stuff that's going on. Fingers crossed they'll get around to updating us sometime soon.

Agreed! I can't wait to get my sculpts back in my cabinet!
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: Ben Brownlie June 27, 2013, 02:57:35 PM
Aha, I thought he'd just posted in the wrong thread - that's the joy of assuming he was up to date :)
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: ironmammoth June 30, 2013, 06:13:53 PM
Ben,

It was indeed the sculpting comp (this is the 2012 sculpting comp thread).

I was just wondering if there was any news...
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: Internalclock July 01, 2013, 07:49:46 AM
not a sausage
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: Gangrel July 01, 2013, 12:20:08 PM
I think the competition is very much Sally's project. As, I believe Sally's been quite ill for a while (and I hope I'm not speaking out of turn by saying that) I'm assuming it's on the back burner. I'm sure it'll be taken in hand when it's practical.
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: Artemis Black July 01, 2013, 03:52:12 PM
I think the competition is very much Sally's project. As, I believe Sally's been quite ill for a while (and I hope I'm not speaking out of turn by saying that) I'm assuming it's on the back burner. I'm sure it'll be taken in hand when it's practical.

Pretty much spot on. Simply put Sal hasn't been well enough all in one go to finish it off and I was never involved so would have to start from scratch if I tried to step in, likely causing more harm than good :)

I can however put a word in and see what the current situation is to make sure you're all up to date.
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: Internalclock July 03, 2013, 08:10:42 AM
I think the competition is very much Sally's project. As, I believe Sally's been quite ill for a while (and I hope I'm not speaking out of turn by saying that) I'm assuming it's on the back burner. I'm sure it'll be taken in hand when it's practical.

Pretty much spot on. Simply put Sal hasn't been well enough all in one go to finish it off and I was never involved so would have to start from scratch if I tried to step in, likely causing more harm than good :)

I can however put a word in and see what the current situation is to make sure you're all up to date.

Hurray!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Grulgor August 21, 2013, 03:31:14 PM
There seems to be a message up on the HF FB feed, looks like it's moving forward  :woohoo:

(I won't parrot Sally's message as I'm sure you can all read it)!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black August 21, 2013, 03:40:17 PM
(I will though ;) ) As I know some of you don't follow FB or wantto, the details are below...

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SALLY HERE:
Okay, when my computer crashed last year all of the images from the sculpting competition were lost. I have managed to get most of the back together but some will need re-photographing from the sculpted entries that are here. Jenn (Dameons gorgeous wife) has kindly agreed to take on the task of finally nailing this as my ME prohibits me from long periods of concentration.

What Jenn needs from you guys is
1: confirmation that if we don't have your original image that you are happy for us to re-photograph your entry and enter that image instead ( dont worry, we know our way around a camera!)
2: Clarification from each of you which category your image should be entered in as the spreadsheet with this info was lost as well.

Please let us know if this is acceptable to you. Each entrant who PM's Jenn (https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.black.9028) with their answers to the above 2 clarifications will receive a 'thankyou 10% off your next order' code.

You will have 2 weeks to complete this task or we will assign for you! :)

Thanks lots and lots for your patience and well wishes

Sally :)

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Again, anyone who doesn't want to get on FB can simply PM me here and I will pass it on to Jenn with the same effects.

We apologise for the extreme delays, it's part of the reason I exist here now but unfortunately was the largest and most complicated for an outsider to just step in and resolve.  Our next one will run much more smothly I promise you :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft August 21, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
Yay for progress!

How do we tell Jenn which entries we are OK'ing for re-photographing and which of those are for which category?

I just mean if I say 'yes you can photo my stuff' how does she know which ones are mine that she then has permission for?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black August 21, 2013, 03:54:36 PM
Yay for progress!

How do we tell Jenn which entries we are OK'ing for re-photographing and which of those are for which category?

I just mean if I say 'yes you can photo my stuff' how does she know which ones are mine that she then has permission for?

*grin* I have no idea, Jenn is at Sal's home right now and they updated from there. I'll know more when Jenn gets back to the office later :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin August 22, 2013, 07:55:30 PM
pm sent, heres hoping that things go swimmingly  :thumbup:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black August 22, 2013, 07:58:05 PM
Yay for progress!

How do we tell Jenn which entries we are OK'ing for re-photographing and which of those are for which category?

I just mean if I say 'yes you can photo my stuff' how does she know which ones are mine that she then has permission for?

All the minis are in bags with the entrants name on so that's sorted :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock August 27, 2013, 09:08:40 AM
PM sent! Permissions gave. Hope I'm not too late ; ; Have been gutting my bathroom and reinstalling and tiling and! in the middle of it wifes relatives arrived to stay from canada... Its been hectic :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black August 27, 2013, 12:34:17 PM
PM sent! Permissions gave. Hope I'm not too late ; ; Have been gutting my bathroom and reinstalling and tiling and! in the middle of it wifes relatives arrived to stay from canada... Its been hectic :P

Won't be too late, everything is swimming along nicely. We'll soon be ready to sort out some voting etc.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock August 27, 2013, 02:18:27 PM
PM sent! Permissions gave. Hope I'm not too late ; ; Have been gutting my bathroom and reinstalling and tiling and! in the middle of it wifes relatives arrived to stay from canada... Its been hectic :P

Won't be too late, everything is swimming along nicely. We'll soon be ready to sort out some voting etc.

Hurray!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Dethkor August 27, 2013, 03:13:16 PM
How exciting! :boing:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Minimaker September 03, 2013, 09:24:02 PM
If anybody is interesting to do another competition while waiting, Mauw miniatures has a "dress a" competition on: http://www.maow-miniatures.fr/Dress%20a%20Johnny%20contest.htm (http://www.maow-miniatures.fr/Dress%20a%20Johnny%20contest.htm).  To get a figure: mail them directly to order one. I just received mine today. It's a 1:7 body/head proportioned 35mm figure in resin with separate arms. Off to a long festival tomorrow and hope to come up with a sculpt idea while away.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 03, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
Hi Everyone, quick update...

Tomorrow is the last day for normal replies to Jenn regarding the prior announcement and getting a code etc.

Then Jenn will take a few days to re-photograph all the entries who didn't shout 'Nooooo!' at her.

Once all the entries have nice new photographs, we'll put up the poll for you all to vote on. For those wondering there 'will' also be a 'HF Choice' element but that will be in addition to the 'People's Choice' vote.

After that, winners will be contacted and we'll make some announcements about casting and anyone who's entry may not be castable etc. will also be contacted.

(As I'm late to the party I may also be doing a little interfering of my own, for example there's one or two that I consider to be an excellent concept which has been done well but, no offence to the entrants, Kev could obviously do better. I may be contacting those about the possibility of using their entry as 3D concept art :) No, I'm not naming them here in case they take offense to the middle bit ;))
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel September 03, 2013, 10:21:53 PM
All sounds good to me!   :thumbup:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Minimaker September 04, 2013, 12:37:05 AM
Ok, awaiting patiently. :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 04, 2013, 07:30:34 AM
Super excited!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 04, 2013, 07:44:23 AM
(As I'm late to the party I may also be doing a little interfering of my own, for example there's one or two that I consider to be an excellent concept which has been done well but, no offence to the entrants, Kev could obviously do better. I may be contacting those about the possibility of using their entry as 3D concept art :) No, I'm not naming them here in case they take offense to the middle bit ;))

This sounds awesome!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Vargrz September 09, 2013, 04:05:03 AM
So I just checked this forum after a long break.  It looks like I missed being able to contact Hasslefree about my entry.  I am okay with it being rephotographed and hope I am not too late.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 09, 2013, 04:19:54 PM
So I just checked this forum after a long break.  It looks like I missed being able to contact Hasslefree about my entry.  I am okay with it being rephotographed and hope I am not too late.

It's not a problem, due to the long delay we aren't being picky at our end. The contact was more in the negative sense i.e. if they contacted us to say 'No, don't rephotograph my stuff'. Anyone who didn't contact us will get an email and then if still no response will be rephotographed anyway for uniformity.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Vargrz September 09, 2013, 11:52:10 PM
Thanks for the quick reply!  I'm happy with whatever you all do with rephotographing!  You all are awesome! :notworthy:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 10, 2013, 09:38:35 AM
damn, I was hoping you would disqualify everyone, leaving all the prizes for me  :twisted: I'm not to proud to take them on a technicality :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 13, 2013, 04:17:08 PM
Hi Everyone

We need your opinion on something. Because of the delay in this competition some issues that could have been addressed fludily at the time have only come to light now and we're having a small quandary about it.

Basically as we go through the entries re-photogaphing them ready for the vote in a few days we are quickly realising that the vast majority of entries aren't really suitable for casting. Many were broken in transit due to bad packaging, a fair few simply can't be cast without having work done on them due to positioning or being oddly multipart (or not multipart when they should be), some are incredibly fragile with the green stuff or putty barely hanging on to the armature and will simply not survive a moulding process and so on.

All this would be fine except the original rules stated people would get a metal casting of their own figure. The problem with that is to make that happen HF would literally have to stop production for a couple of weeks while Kev fixed all the greens, which as you can guess is financially disastrous.

So what we'd like to do is switch that out and just cast the publically voted winners, and the HF chosen enties, and then send everyone a set of those for entering instead (These may also require someof Kev's time but 'far' less).

Would that be acceptable to you guys?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Leader of the Rats September 13, 2013, 04:34:04 PM
I'm ok with that. It's unfortunate some entries can't be cast but this is mostly amateurs here so mistakes are bound to happen with our sculpts. Hope mine isn't one of the "bad" ones but if it is, so be it. I'm fine with Kev or someone picking out the castable ones and letting people vote for them.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Grulgor September 13, 2013, 04:35:09 PM
Sounds absolutely fine to me, obviously quite a few of us had never done anything like this before so we're not experts on making castable miniatures! Though as an aside, I'd love it if there could be a guide of some form to doing that if ever there was another sculpting competition. Not because there should have been one before, but just as something interesting for those of us who want to get better and wouldn't mind casting some parts at home for conversion.

This would mean we'd still get our greens back too right? As that was the main thing I was hoping for, she's far from perfect but it's the first time I've done anything like this and I'd love to get her back.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bungle September 13, 2013, 04:44:49 PM
Its sad that some entries are uncastable as is.

Isn't it a condition for that people would get a metal casting of their own figure that entries are actually castable?
2: The Final piece must be able to be castable in metal by us.

can you post all up in 2 groups?

Castable

Non castable as is (with an explanation why maybe?) so people can learn from the mistakes and we can all enjoy their work?

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 13, 2013, 05:04:54 PM

It was a condition, and an important one, but it was kinda hidden and not as prominent as the part where it says you'll get a metal casting. Plus some of these are a technicality, breakages and things that 'could' be fixed etc.

Everyone will still get their greens back, of course.

Basically what we'd now like to see happen is we cast the public winners, we then also hand pick out a number of other entries that didn't win as  sort of 'Highly Recommended' prizes that are also castable as is and fill up a mould with them. We'd then send everyone a set of those minis with their greens back.

We will absolutely post up some guidelines about why things weren't castable and some pointers as to how to make sure that doesn't happen in the future.

This will also all have the added side effect of making the resolution to the competition much faster after the long delays so there is a bright side :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: drakkol September 13, 2013, 05:10:06 PM
Ok! Good option Artemis, don't worry.

Its sad that some entries are uncastable as is.

Isn't it a condition for that people would get a metal casting of their own figure that entries are actually castable?
2: The Final piece must be able to be castable in metal by us.

can you post all up in 2 groups?

Castable

Non castable as is (with an explanation why maybe?) so people can learn from the mistakes and we can all enjoy their work?

...and Bungle is right! This could  be VERY useful for us.  We will all learn much from these explanations. If you'll make another competition we could send better greens.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 13, 2013, 05:19:35 PM

Oh and just to clairfy, this has no impact on the competition. If one of the winners happens to be uncastable for some reason we'll work with the winner to make sure that it is. As I mentioned fixing one or two sculpts we can manage, fixing 75 is not such a good option for the business I'm afraid.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 13, 2013, 05:32:46 PM
No worries from me.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: alrith72 September 13, 2013, 06:08:32 PM
I'll be the first grumpy one to express disappointment. If it's not castable in metal then it shouldn't be in the final consideration for voting as stated in the comp rules (whether this is due to bad sculpting or bad packaging, so be it). If it is castable then the entrant should get a copy of their miniature in metal as stated regardless of whether they are a winner or not.
 
Oh and just to clairfy, this has no impact on the competition. If one of the winners happens to be uncastable for some reason we'll work with the winner to make sure that it is.
Again if it's not castable it shouldn't be in consideration for the winners votes.

And just to clarify mine is rubbish, has no chance of winning but that wasn't the reason I entered.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin September 13, 2013, 06:23:57 PM
fine by me,  any or all of mine.
I entered for the fun, but a reasoned critique would help avoid the same mistakes in the future.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 13, 2013, 06:32:52 PM
I'll be the first grumpy one to express disappointment. If it's not castable in metal then it shouldn't be in the final consideration for voting as stated in the comp rules (whether this is due to bad sculpting or bad packaging, so be it). If it is castable then the entrant should get a copy of their miniature in metal as stated regardless of whether they are a winner or not.
 
Oh and just to clairfy, this has no impact on the competition. If one of the winners happens to be uncastable for some reason we'll work with the winner to make sure that it is.
Again if it's not castable it shouldn't be in consideration for the winners votes.

And just to clarify mine is rubbish, has no chance of winning but that wasn't the reason I entered.

We just didn't want an entry good enough to win to be disqualified because of bad packaging or the sculptors lack of knowledge of what will cast in a metal mould to be honest. The main reason we can think of why a winner wouldn't be castable is that it needs to be multipart in which case we could snip off an arm and attach it to a sprue etc. That's not a lof of effort for Kev.

The main reason a lot of the entries aren't castable are incredibly delicate parts, loose putty, fragility or they broke in the mail (We can stick them back together for photography purposes but they won't survive a moulding process - if one of those happens to win then again fixing one mini is within our reach).

There will be a handful of entries that 'are' castable in metal but then don't go on to win something. As the rules currently stand they should get a metal casting. If any of those people are upset about that we will work something out with them, everyone will get an individual email about their own entry so if you happen to be one of those entries then you will have your opportunity to talk with us :)

(There were similar issues with the Dress a Kev as we fond out recently when something needed to be remoulded and it was practically trashed after the one initial moulding.)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 13, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
If all else fails I'm happy if I get my greens back if they can't be cast :) happy to pay postage too, fingers crossed atleast one makes it to cast though :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 13, 2013, 06:50:31 PM
And if one of mines needs a snip to make the cut (see what I did there :)) then u have my full approval :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 13, 2013, 07:01:08 PM
If all else fails I'm happy if I get my greens back if they can't be cast :) happy to pay postage too, fingers crossed atleast one makes it to cast though :)

Nobody will need to pay to receive greens back as we will be sending everyone a package anyway :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 13, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
Good point well made
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Ironhammer September 13, 2013, 11:30:03 PM
I think Artemis's solution is perfectly fine.  It seemed to me from the beginning that casting all the entries was a tall order, I'm kind of not surprised there would turn out to be serious difficulties.  We all need to remember that the HFM team is picking up the tab for all this.  This is a great contest either way, and for my own part if my minis don't get cast that's not a problem, this was an awesome opportunity to begin with!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake September 13, 2013, 11:47:26 PM
I think mine may be in the case of not being castable. Not too fussed either way. I would like them in metal but if its going to be extra work then obviously no. Getting copies of the winners sounds good, I thought that was always on the table though as part of entering the contest?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mabus September 14, 2013, 12:08:10 AM
It's been awhile for me too. Just saw this post on my FB feed. Permission granted as well.  :smile:

Hell, I don't even remember if I sent my miniatures out to you guys.  :erm:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 14, 2013, 02:58:31 PM
I think mine may be in the case of not being castable. Not too fussed either way. I would like them in metal but if its going to be extra work then obviously no. Getting copies of the winners sounds good, I thought that was always on the table though as part of entering the contest?

Originally it was a copy of the winners of the 3 categories and your own casting. I'm suggesting as a make-up for a lot of people not getting their own casting that on top of the 3 winners you also get a selection of the other sculpts as selected by us.

I'ts unfortunately one of those things that had the competition run smothly would have been resolved fluidly as it came up and now we're just looking for the best scenario.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 15, 2013, 03:32:05 PM
Unforeseen stuff happens and, oddly enough, is often unforeseen. I'm fine with what you're proposing and, personally, know I'd much rather get mine back and be told they're uncastable than have them get smushed in a mould and be gone forever!

They're masterpieces even if they're also crap! :P


Selection of the sculpts selected by you, is that going to be for example, we choose 2-3 of the ones you cast, or you give us some random ones?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Vargrz September 16, 2013, 03:23:59 AM
I am glad to hear such support for the solutions proposed.  The Hasslefree crew is such a great corner of the miniature industry!  Their great sculpts, fantastic service, and personal attention deserve to be recognized as unique!  In this case, the willingness to seek the opinion of their customers and contestants in itself is commendable!  Bravo!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 16, 2013, 04:03:35 AM
Unforeseen stuff happens and, oddly enough, is often unforeseen. I'm fine with what you're proposing and, personally, know I'd much rather get mine back and be told they're uncastable than have them get smushed in a mould and be gone forever!

They're masterpieces even if they're also crap! :P


Selection of the sculpts selected by you, is that going to be for example, we choose 2-3 of the ones you cast, or you give us some random ones?

Yes, that is one of the concerns. It is distinctly possible that entries could go into the mould ok, break immediately in the vulcanising of the mould and all we're left with is a broken entry and a malformed mould. We'd rather reward entires in a different way that risk so many entries that way. It also has nothing to do with quality, quite a fewof the entries I would personally vote for aren't castable without alterations/fixes.

What I meant by selection by us is just the 'HF Choices' which will be in addition to the'Public Voted Winners'.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 16, 2013, 07:59:26 AM
Sounds good :P

So to clarify, winners will be picked from any and all entries now, regardless of their present castability?

Also, what are you doing out of bed at 4:35am?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel September 16, 2013, 12:22:59 PM
OK, just my two penn'orth.

Firstly, I fully appreciate the situation HF are in with this, and I do think this is an elegant (and generous) solution. That said, with my petulant and whiney head on, if my sculpt (which I did attempt to keep as castable as possible) IS castable, but doesn't win anything (which it shouldn't; there are far better ones in the competition), then I have to admit I'd be disappointed not to get a metal copy. Still, I'll also concede that this isn't the end of the world and that there are bigger things in life to worry about. I'm not about to throw my Green Stuff out of the pram over this!

Best,
Mike
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 16, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
Wondered, you could post a list of all the castable entries and let the people who made them choose between having a cast of their entry or the HF picks you were offering, but that may just mean an obnoxious amount of casting so I dunno if it's even possible. BUT! it would satisfy everyone, wouldn't it? :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Pleasurepain September 17, 2013, 12:09:29 AM
When you say "selected other miniatures" I'm not really sure whether you mean "the other ones we selected as being instantly castable" or "some other cool ones we like and might do some work on in order to cast up"?

I have to say that the reason I entered a sculpture was not with any delusions of winning the competition, but for the opportunity to get something I had made cast up in metal like a "proper mini".

I had been wondering whether something like this was coming though. Is the problem really the work needed to be nice and get everyone's up to scratch for them, or is it just too much work with all the entries to even cast them? That is to say, if you went through critically throwing out all the non-castable ones rather than trying to repair them or adjusting them for casting, would it still be a massive hassle? Or is it that you would find it too mean to cast some people's without putting in a lot of effort trying to make everyone's castable if possible?

I don't think anyone can have any complaints if you don't try and fix their sculptures if they're uncastable as is. You're under no obligation to do that for people. They have some cause for complaint if their castable sculpture isn't cast though. The bottom line though is that if you can't do it, you can't do it. You're the ones best placed to make that decision! I'm not au fait with the miniature-casting process to know what these things really entail.

Whatever you decide you can do I'm sure will be well-received and very good value for the price of the armature! I'm certainly not going to get angry about it. However, I would be lying to say that I wouldn't be disappointed if my entry turned out to be castable but wasn't cast. Given the choice, I would rather a copy of my modest attempt than a bag-full of the most professional-looking ones.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 17, 2013, 03:00:23 AM
When you say "selected other miniatures" I'm not really sure whether you mean "the other ones we selected as being instantly castable" or "some other cool ones we like and might do some work on in order to cast up"?

I have to say that the reason I entered a sculpture was not with any delusions of winning the competition, but for the opportunity to get something I had made cast up in metal like a "proper mini".

I had been wondering whether something like this was coming though. Is the problem really the work needed to be nice and get everyone's up to scratch for them, or is it just too much work with all the entries to even cast them? That is to say, if you went through critically throwing out all the non-castable ones rather than trying to repair them or adjusting them for casting, would it still be a massive hassle? Or is it that you would find it too mean to cast some people's without putting in a lot of effort trying to make everyone's castable if possible?

I don't think anyone can have any complaints if you don't try and fix their sculptures if they're uncastable as is. You're under no obligation to do that for people. They have some cause for complaint if their castable sculpture isn't cast though. The bottom line though is that if you can't do it, you can't do it. You're the ones best placed to make that decision! I'm not au fait with the miniature-casting process to know what these things really entail.

Whatever you decide you can do I'm sure will be well-received and very good value for the price of the armature! I'm certainly not going to get angry about it. However, I would be lying to say that I wouldn't be disappointed if my entry turned out to be castable but wasn't cast. Given the choice, I would rather a copy of my modest attempt than a bag-full of the most professional-looking ones.

Well the original text did mention that it had to be castable, but it wasn't  as noticeable as the part where it said you got a casting and more importantly it wasn't made clear just how likely an entry was not to be castable. This wouldn't have been an issue if we'd got 25 entries and say a dozen were disappointed. We got almost a hundred entries and well over half won't be castable, maybe more. That's a 'lot'of people now. We can't fix one sculpt and leave another so we have to be more ruthless. The only sculpts we'll even think about fixing will be winners.

As I mentioned  above this will leave, almost certainly, a handful of people who didn't win anything but who's sculpt 'is' castable.

What I've been trying to diplomatically not say is that of the selection above, most of them will be the... lesser entries. Where almost nothing was done or what was done is mostly just a blob with some fingerprints on etc.  It seems unfair to send to put those through the, quite expensive, casting process and they get a metal casting where a lot of the entries that quite clearly took a significant amount of time more don't get one.

I very much hope nobody is insulted by this, I have been trying to dance around the issue. Every entry is appreciated of course, it's just the way it worked out seems a little off to us so we we're floating alternate solutions.

That make sense?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 17, 2013, 07:14:55 AM
I trust your better judgement ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 17, 2013, 07:28:03 AM
What I've been trying to diplomatically not say is that of the selection above, most of them will be the... lesser entries. Where almost nothing was done or what was done is mostly just a blob with some fingerprints on etc.  It seems unfair to send to put those through the, quite expensive, casting process and they get a metal casting where a lot of the entries that quite clearly took a significant amount of time more don't get one.

I very much hope nobody is insulted by this, I have been trying to dance around the issue. Every entry is appreciated of course, it's just the way it worked out seems a little off to us so we we're floating alternate solutions.

That make sense?

Not really, actually that makes less sense. It wasn't a rule or even a suggestion that your entry needed to be a total overhaul of the armature to the point it's unrecognizable, so it seems... I don't know... harsh to suddenly bring it up as an issue now.

Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly happy with the solution you've proposed, it just somehow irks me that you'll now say people who put less putty on their armature don't deserve to be cast. It doesn't mean less thought was put in, or less work, nor even less time. Some of us tried to work out what we were going to do with an eye specifically to trying to make it castable, doing things less ambitious than we might of in the hope of it remaining castable. I know I did!


In the end it's down to your choice. When people were signing up I kind of saw something like this with just the insane number of entries that were going to be sent.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 17, 2013, 10:04:05 AM
Am I the only person who just wants this to be over?

It has been a long time and it was getting to a point where it looked like the greens would all be returned with an apology anyway... or even just forgotten about.

The fact that SOMETHING is being done is great and although I would dearly love my sculpt to be cast, I accept that if it isn't voted for then it won't be. It's a tough break but hey, at least I'll get the winner sculpts so it isn't as if I have wasted my time... and I'll get my green back too.

I think the time has long since passed when there was going to be a way of liaising with everyone to get the greens castable... and I also think that the popularity of the competition bit HF in the butt (over 70 entries! That's a lot of miniatures to pay for casting).

I think that Artemis is making the best of what he can at this late stage and is having to make some tough decisions based on cash outlay and castability of the miniatures. There also has to be some consideration into whether there is any likelyhood of the sculpts going in the shop to get a return on the large invstment involved with casting a host of miniatures...

Sometimes in life, things happen that are out of our control and we just have to deal with them.

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Pleasurepain September 17, 2013, 10:33:10 AM
That makes a lot more sense, ta Artemis.

Although as PossumCraft says, it seems a little odd to introduce a whole new parameter at this stage for getting your miniature cast ("We deem you a professional-enough sculptor.") if you are fretting about applying the one that definitely was spelled out ("Rule 2 of 3: Must be castable."). And even if, as you suggest, the only ones that end up being cast are the more "worked" entries, it might be argued that you could even start to doubt how far some of them follow the first rule. When hardly any of the original pose/surface is left, how much is the resultant sculpture "based on/derived from the armature" any more?

In any artistic field, people are always going to interpret the brief differently (it's one of the main things that makes it interesting, in my mind), and it looks like different people have paid different amounts of attention to different parts of the entry criteria. I'm sure they've also entered for different reasons. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having a sculpting competition where you offer to cast miniatures of any entries you (or the general public) deem of a professional enough standard. But you'd have to admit that it doesn't match the original competition brief at all.

If you ever run another one (if this hasn't completely put you off :silly), at least you'll be better placed to spell out what criteria you'll actually be using to cast miniatures next time.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 17, 2013, 10:36:17 AM
I believe the overall response, then, is that almost everyone is happy with your proposed solution BUT while you go ahead with it we reserve the right to quietly grmbl to ourselves :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 17, 2013, 12:01:38 PM
As for the 'professional enough sculptor'...

Some professional sculptors don't sculpt as well as some amateurs.

It is about the end product. Look at your sculpt and think to yourself "if I hadn't made that and I saw it in a shop, would I pay 3-50 for it?"... if the answer is no, then you have answered the question youself.

Part of the original intent of the competition was to add sculpts to the range. If you can say that your sculpt is worthy of that and it doesn't get cast, when your green turns up, see if Tor Gaming like it (or another company that takes on sculpts from all comers)... that way, your wish to have your work in metal may come to fruition (and you may get additional incentives into the bargain).

But it's all horses for courses.

I'm just happy to sit back and see what happens...

... after all, no one died so in the big scheme of things, it is really quite a small thing to worry over ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Dethkor September 17, 2013, 12:23:28 PM
This is starting to remind me of the Heresy dragon  :crazy:
I certainly wouldn't be angry, being a single parent I well aware that life can throw you a curve, but as Pleasurepain said "disappointed" is how I'd feel about waiting this long not to have my mini cast. 

I'm not commenting on anyone's sculpt but my own when I say that I followed the rules, including #2, and most other competitions (sculpting or not) would disqualify entrants that didn't.  The good folks at Hasslefree are bending backwards to accommodate everyone, a task I don't envy, and I hope this doesn't become a deterrent for them to do this again in the future.

What ever happens, good luck to everyone  :smile:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Ben Brownlie September 17, 2013, 02:37:59 PM
This is starting to remind me of the Heresy dragon  :crazy:

Really? How? I'm genuinely interested as it seems an odd analogy :)

As for the rest, for the most part this has gone down very well, but then I would expect it would as I do not see the problem in the first place.

For the few on the thread that are less happy, Arty was being more than generous in his post about this and opening up the discussion with such things as "Would that be acceptable to you guys?" and him saying "It was a condition, and an important one, but it was kinda hidden and not as prominent as the part where it says you'll get a metal casting." isn't really the case at all, again he's just being nice*.

It was abundantly clear: There were only there rules in the compy and one of them was that the entry had to be castable. If not, it's not within the rules. I wouldn't have even been so nice as to open up the debate in the first place, but then I'm not quite so cuddly

Simples :)






*Again! I know...  :blink:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 17, 2013, 03:09:49 PM
For the few on the thread that are less happy, Arty was being more than generous in his post about this and opening up the discussion with such things as "Would that be acceptable to you guys?" and him saying "It was a condition, and an important one, but it was kinda hidden and not as prominent as the part where it says you'll get a metal casting." isn't really the case at all, again he's just being nice*.

It was abundantly clear: There were only there rules in the compy and one of them was that the entry had to be castable. If not, it's not within the rules. I wouldn't have even been so nice as to open up the debate in the first place, but then I'm not quite so cuddly

Simples :)

I don't think anyone is debating it's generous to offer everyone who entered a full set of the cast miniatures. What is causing some concern is that it reads very much like the reason for the change from casting every cast-able model is because some at HF feel that not enough work has gone into some of the ones which are cast-able. This was most definitely not something listed in the rules, any kind of x% of final weight must be putty or something.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 17, 2013, 03:31:07 PM
I don't think anyone is debating it's generous to offer everyone who entered a full set of the cast miniatures. What is causing some concern is that it reads very much like the reason for the change from casting every cast-able model is because some at HF feel that not enough work has gone into some of the ones which are cast-able. This was most definitely not something listed in the rules, any kind of x% of final weight must be putty or something.

Originally, all entries were getting cast... that is no longer happening.

Only the winners and some 'favourites' are going to be cast... suggesting that if the miniatures aren't judged as a winning standard, they are not likely to be selected for casting.

What you are querying is completely irellevant now because the goal-posts have changed and of course, judging will always be subjective. Why does it cause you concern? If your sculpt is good enough, it will win. If it isn't, it won't (irrespective of the amount of perceived effort that went into it).

I suspect that the sheer volume of sculpts is the main reason for the 'winners only and favourites' casting... cost and time frame is also probably a good reason too. I think you are reading more into this than is actually there.

It's lucky I'm not dealing with this. I wouldn't have asked for opinions, I'd have stated what was going to happen in a 'public statement'  and left it at that.

I guess Artemis and the HF crew have more patience than I do.



: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 17, 2013, 07:17:24 PM

*grin* OK, that was a lot of replies so instead of replying individually I'll try to sum up everything in one post.

1. I'm really not that cuddly, I'm more aware of people's feelings on this matter because of the long delay. That changed things, had I been put in charge 2 weeks after the competition then I may have just said 'This is what's happening' :)

2. This really was me asking people's opinion. I obviously have a way that I'd prefer to get it done because 'I' think it's the most fair and the quickest way to get this competition done with and everyone gets a nice reward for their entry and patience. However if I'm in the miority there I would keep looking for a solution that pleases th majority.

3. I'm not introducing a new element and it's definitely not about 'less putty' or 'less effort' or even 'less skill'. The part above that I knew would be a controversial discussion point is simply an observation. It was a flaw in the original rules that the sheer number of entries has brought to serious light. I am 'not' going to point at anyone's actual entry, that is unacceptable so I'm just going to use an example....

Entry A sculpts a hat and a dress on the armature, not particularly well but obviously the sculptor has done their best etc so it's not be sneezed at, everyone starts somewhere. Entries B through G have all put lots of detail, small things hanging off necklaces or weapons, intircate chains and so on. After the voting Entry A comes dead last and B through F all lose out to Entry G.

Of all of those only Entry A is actually castable without work being done at great cost by Kev. The rules as written means that only Entry A and Entry G gets a metal cast of their figure. To 'me' that seems odd. It's not 'unfair', I'm not suggesting that Entry A doesn't 'deserve' a casting, they after all put in their best effort and provided a castable entry as the rules stated. It just doesn't seem right somehow that that's how it works out. That's our fault for the way we set up the contest and for not being able to fluidly alter the rules as it became evident at an early stage.

Like I said, 20 entries and this wouldn't have been much of an issue. At the moment we're lookign at removing well over 50 entries fo being on castable. That's a lot of people who don't get a metal cast who then see that Entry A above does and feel miffed about it. Not Entry A's fault in any way, but I'm the one who has to deal with those 50 people not Entry A :)

4. No Inso, you are not the only one who wants it to be over ;) Seriously though, what Jenn and I would like at this point is to get this done as quickly and fairly as possible and have at least the majority of entrants be happy. Most of the photography is done, we just need to set up a poll, which will happen this week, and voting can start. This discussion is happening now to make sure we have our ducks in a row while moving forward.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Pleasurepain September 17, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
[...]the goal-posts have changed and of course, judging will always be subjective. Why does it cause you concern? If your sculpt is good enough, it will win. If it isn't, it won't (irrespective of the amount of perceived effort that went into it).[...]

Whether or not it is cause for concern depends on why you entered the competition. If you entered in a competitive spirit to win or nothing, or you entered a token effort to get the castings of the eventual winners, it oughtn't concern you. If on the other hand you entered a sculpture to the best of your ability that you didn't think had any hopes of setting the world on fire, but that you would get a metal cast of, then it would concern you. If you specifically decided to "undersell" the potential floweriness of your sculpture to try and ensure it had the best chance of being castable (because you don't often get offered the chance of a cool metal cast of something you made), then it would concern you.

I think how well this is handled really will come down to the detail and that depends on the intention behind it. I'll start off with noting that the quid pro quo was that Hasslefree offered metal castings of their entries to all entrants whose sculptures were castable, in return for a load of sculptures that they could sell if good enough and the potential that also any uncastable entries they had the option to spend a bit of effort to make castable and saleable too if they wished.

If you were overwhelmed by the numbers and there isn't capacity to cast all the readily-castable entries without putting the company in jeopardy:
Fair enough. You can't do what you can't do! In that case the winning entries plus a few selected extras (however they are selected) sounds like a great consolation prize.

If you could cast all the castable entries, but would feel bad for the people whose entries were uncastable:
That's a very noble sentiment. If the non-castable entries seem commercially-viable, these ought to be the ones that Hasslefree has the option to work on because it'd hopefully be worth it. If they're not viable and don't get fixed, people really oughtn't get upset about it. If you decide that you don't want any potential upset though (at the expense of breaking your word and not casting other people's castable entries as promised), this is coming from a nice place, but it's a bit rough on the one's who you are letting down when you could fulfil the deal.

If the number of "selected" entries, or ones that are otherwise used for sale by Hasslefree at some point, approaches the number of potentially-castable ones, so they're no longer really the "consolation prize" mentioned in the first case:
This would be really uncool. You'd be asking permission to swap some people's promised space in the mould for a group of other people's entries based on a new set of criteria. Optimistically, because you'd decided too late that they were better criteria. Cynically, because these would be more profitable in the long run. There is a risk in this last case that Hasslefree might seem like taking the good bits of the original deal (some cool minis, dibs on spending a bit of time on fixing up some potentially cool ones) without fulfilling the other side of the bargain.

I hope it's the first case, I would be somewhat surprised if it turned out to be the last case, but Artemis' last post* worries me slightly.

Of course, this is all based on the premise of an entrant that would rather have their own model that a winner model or a "selected" one. If that's not the case and they'd rather someone else's, no worries, everyone wins! :D

* Edit: one before last post. He got in before me, sneaky ninja!  :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Pleasurepain September 17, 2013, 07:47:36 PM
Like I said, 20 entries and this wouldn't have been much of an issue. At the moment we're lookign at removing well over 50 entries fo being on castable. That's a lot of people who don't get a metal cast who then see that Entry A above does and feel miffed about it. Not Entry A's fault in any way, but I'm the one who has to deal with those 50 people not Entry A :)

You have to deal with Entry A too, don't you?

I suppose the difference as I would describe it is that if Entry A gets miffed, it is with some justification, while if Entries B-F get miffed, it's because they are being _____ (inset word of preference here!).  :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gothy Beans September 17, 2013, 07:55:10 PM
It's lucky I'm not dealing with this. I wouldn't have asked for opinions...
Maybe you wouldn't, but Arty did. So please Inso, try not to get wound up by people giving them.  :terrified: At the end of that day it is what we all love about this forum, that people can freely express how they feel.

My opinion? I am sure a lot of people would not have picked up tools if they hadn't been spurred by the idea of getting a figure cast, myself included. But I am actually really happy either way because it's something I had not done before. I was encouraged to do something new by this competition and I had fun doing it. In the end we can always paint our greens when they return.  :smile:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 17, 2013, 07:56:37 PM
Whatever way you look at it, Artemis' proposed solution is the one that A) gets the whole thing wrapped up before we start hitting each other with putty shapers and B) gives everyone something for their efforts.

Frankly that sounds like the best outcome to me. I entered to see something I'd made cast in metal like a real pr0-feshunal, but at this point I'd be happy just having the original back.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 17, 2013, 08:11:00 PM
I can understand that people have differing opinions and I can also understand why people may be disappointed about not getting a copy of their sculpt in metal guaranteed (I love it when I get my sculpts cast... anyone who says they don't is a liar!)... but seeing as there have been so many problems with the 'greens', the massive time delay and the huge take up, a decent compromise has been suggested.

The competition helped many people 'give it a go' and if the worst happens and their sculpts get returned, at least they still have their green... which is something to be proud of... and is in the 'spirit' of what the competition originally set out to do (get people sculpting).

It has been a year now... it has dragged on... and I for one will be glad to see a voting thread.

I think it would be a real shame to introduce any risk of further delay by arguing about minutiae, hence I'm all for just letting things take their course.

The thing about the WWW is that written text is easily misinterpreted. I'm not angry in anyway, I just can't see the logic in risking slowing down a process further when a decent way forward has been introduced.

There will be no losers. Everyone will get their sculpt back in either original form or in metal (if they win). They will also get extra miniatures to assuage their disappointment if they don't get a metal version of their work... I really can't see where the problem is. 

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 17, 2013, 08:11:55 PM
I think how well this is handled really will come down to the detail and that depends on the intention behind it. I'll start off with noting that the quid pro quo was that Hasslefree offered metal castings of their entries to all entrants whose sculptures were castable, in return for a load of sculptures that they could sell if good enough and the potential that also any uncastable entries they had the option to spend a bit of effort to make castable and saleable too if they wished.

Just a quick note of clarification, and again there is zero insult intended to anyone who entered or ever will enter a sculpting competition of any kind, but that really isn't the quid pro quo of these kinds of contests. The odds of an entry ever being good enough to pay for the costs of the competition itself are incredibly low unless either an unknown sculpts his arse off out of nowhere or for some reason a professional sculptor decides to enter for a laugh. There are some excellent entries this time around, as there almost always are in any good sculpting contest, but with the best will in the world it's unlikely any of them will be commercially viable enough to cover the costs of a large contest like this.

These contests are primarily for fun and as a way to encourage people to try sculpting or converting etc. They are in no way moneymakers, trust me.

(To be totally upfront they are also, when not delayed a year *cough*, good advertising, but even that doesn't make a sculpting contest a financial asset :) )

If you were overwhelmed by the numbers and there isn't capacity to cast all the readily-castable entries without putting the company in jeopardy:
Fair enough. You can't do what you can't do! In that case the winning entries plus a few selected extras (however they are selected) sounds like a great consolation prize.

If you could cast all the castable entries, but would feel bad for the people whose entries were uncastable:
That's a very noble sentiment. If the non-castable entries seem commercially-viable, these ought to be the ones that Hasslefree has the option to work on because it'd hopefully be worth it. If they're not viable and don't get fixed, people really oughtn't get upset about it. If you decide that you don't want any potential upset though (at the expense of breaking your word and not casting other people's castable entries as promised), this is coming from a nice place, but it's a bit rough on the one's who you are letting down when you could fulfil the deal.

If the number of "selected" entries, or ones that are otherwise used for sale by Hasslefree at some point, approaches the number of potentially-castable ones, so they're no longer really the "consolation prize" mentioned in the first case:
This would be really uncool. You'd be asking permission to swap some people's promised space in the mould for a group of other people's entries based on a new set of criteria. Optimistically, because you'd decided too late that they were better criteria. Cynically, because these would be more profitable in the long run. There is a risk in this last case that Hasslefree might seem like taking the good bits of the original deal (some cool minis, dibs on spending a bit of time on fixing up some potentially cool ones) without fulfilling the other side of the bargain.

I hope it's the first case, I would be somewhat surprised if it turned out to be the last case, but Artemis' last post* worries me slightly.

Of course, this is all based on the premise of an entrant that would rather have their own model that a winner model or a "selected" one. If that's not the case and they'd rather someone else's, no worries, everyone wins! :D

* Edit: one before last post. He got in before me, sneaky ninja!  :P

I am the world's fattest ninja btw.

But anyway, yeah you really need to remove anything to do with money from the equation. The only part where things become financially disastrous for us is if we were to take away a large chunk of Kev's sculpting time to fix a large number of entries. Other than that, which I already mentioned, there's no hidden financial agenda.

In fact the largest single cost incurred to us in all of this will probably be to simply post 100 people a bunch of minis, which is happening regardless of whatever solution we end up going with. About 50 entries are international and 50 are UK so that's well over 250 in postal costs alone. Not including the 100 spins of the winning mould to give everyone their prize etc. That'll be hundreds more pounds. While moulding is expensive it won't come close to those costs which are already incurred.

I've tried to be as upfront as possible with the resoning behind the new discussion, there's no hidden agenda I assure you, financial or otherwise. The contest didn't scale up well due to the wording and now we're in a position where it's almost certain that one group of people will be, at least slightly, disappointed. We're trying to work out what's fairest to everyone and I've asked for opinions on that before we make a final decision. Nothing is final until moulds are made and entries are posted back etc.

If enough of tne castable but non-winning entries are really that upset about it and free minis etc. don't appease them then I will look into holding up our original end of the bargain, get them a cast mini and deal with the 60 miffed people who don't get one. It is what we originally wrote after all. The very first thing I said was that we were 'offering' a new possibility. On the other hand if it's like 3 people I have to balance those 3 against the rest and incur their wrath instead. Ultimately I'm collecting opinions so that I can take the least abuse possible ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 17, 2013, 08:15:19 PM

Oh, and none of this duscussion is holding anything up. That's why I'm doing the typing while Jenn is finishing the photography and organising a poll etc. So no worries on that front :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 17, 2013, 09:20:54 PM
Can you ask her to photograph mine with vaseline on the lens so they suck less?


btw I'm perfectly happy to pay the postage on whatever is sent to me, be it my own sculpts or metal casts of them or other peoples. I dunno how many people feel the same but yeah. Few quid to everyone is nothing, few quid FOR everyone is a lot.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 17, 2013, 09:25:25 PM
Can you ask her to photograph mine with vaseline on the lens so they suck less?


btw I'm perfectly happy to pay the postage on whatever is sent to me, be it my own sculpts or metal casts of them or other peoples. I dunno how many people feel the same but yeah. Few quid to everyone is nothing, few quid FOR everyone is a lot.

*grin* I know it was intended as helpful but I'm really not in the habit of saying one thing and meaning another. It wasn't a complaint about the costs of he postage etc. we knew those going in. It was simply a bit of extra information to highlight that the issues here, other than Kev's time, are not financially based.

(Of course if anyone is making or planning to make an order around delivery time then by all means let us know so we can include your freebies with it instead of unnecessarilly sending two parcels within a few days of each other :) In fact we might even offer a code to incenitivise doing just that now that it's been brought to my mind, will think about that)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 17, 2013, 09:27:13 PM
<-- gets credit
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: perceptionistruth September 18, 2013, 12:05:12 AM
I really can't see where the problem is.

Which in no way means your view is any more right or wrong than anyone elses.  If people feel aggrieved, they have every right to, in the same way that you don't feel aggrieved.  People should be allowed to feel how they feel, even if you can't understand why they feel that way.

It's not a comment on the competition (I agree with the comment about it being like the Dragon, it is, same root issue), and everyone involved is trying to and just has to make the best of it.  But declaring you can't see where the problem is, with the unstated comment, and hence there isn't one, just dismisses how other people feel.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel September 18, 2013, 12:33:34 AM
(Of course if anyone is making or planning to make an order around delivery time then by all means let us know so we can include your freebies with it instead of unnecessarilly sending two parcels within a few days of each other :) In fact we might even offer a code to incenitivise doing just that now that it's been brought to my mind, will think about that)

If it helps save two lots of postage and a little work, I could always pick our stuff up on my way home from work one evening.

Best,
Mike
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 18, 2013, 01:25:09 AM

(I agree with the comment about it being like the Dragon, it is, same root issue),

And what root issue would that be? Because for the life of me I can't think of a single similarity.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 18, 2013, 07:42:42 AM
I really can't see where the problem is.

Which in no way means your view is any more right or wrong than anyone elses.  If people feel aggrieved, they have every right to, in the same way that you don't feel aggrieved.  People should be allowed to feel how they feel, even if you can't understand why they feel that way.

It's not a comment on the competition (I agree with the comment about it being like the Dragon, it is, same root issue), and everyone involved is trying to and just has to make the best of it.  But declaring you can't see where the problem is, with the unstated comment, and hence there isn't one, just dismisses how other people feel.

It doesn't dismiss how other people feel, it is simply me stating my opinion just the same as everyone else. Even if it was me dismissing other people, what does it matter? I have no affiliation with the competition and I can be ignored just the same as everyone else.

I suppose 'the root cause of the dragon' was the massive take-up / buy in? Because that is the only similarity I can see.

Yes if people want to, they have a right to feel aggrieved and they can moan about it but it isn't going to change anything... it just has the potential to slow things down and after all this time, wouldn't it just be nice to get some sort of return on the effort you, or anyone else put in?

As I said before, if people are so keen to get their work cast and they don't win, then there are other avenues to follow. I have had my work cast by other people and it is great... but you just have to do a bit of searching and tailor your stuff a bit.

Either way, I will enjoy finding out what gets cast and what doesn't... if mine doesn't, I can live with it because I'll get the green and I can correct it/improve it before I paint it ;).

Ire over a miniature sculpting competition just isn't worth it...

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 18, 2013, 08:51:07 AM
Time for Axioms...

'Failing to plan, is planning to fail'... however, 'No plan ever survived a battle' and this leads to 'Flexibility/adaptability is the key to victory.'

In light of this...

There was a good plan, it didn't survive the battle but through flexibility an alternative was found and there is likely to be a good outcome.

At the end of the day, we all get shiny toys for a minimum outlay (apart from time, for some, just postage because there were free armatures/putty if you wanted it). Isn't that a good thing?

I thought it was a good thing and I still do. Maybe I just see the good in things... Maybe I'm just over optimistic/positive? Maybe I just look at the news and think just how insignificant a hobby competition is when compared to what is happening around the world?

... Maybe I should just get on board and switch to negative Inso... put my velociraptor head on?

But when all is said and done, all my posts can be ignored just the same as anyone else's... and I'll still get some shiny toys to play with :D.

 :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 18, 2013, 09:07:48 AM
Has something touched a nerve..?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 18, 2013, 09:53:40 AM
Has something touched a nerve..?

What? No smilies?  :wink: (I was nearly ostracised for that in the past... :paranoid2:).

Nothing has touched a nerve  :lmao:

I just saw something good coming from something long over with (and almost forgotten...) and thought it was a bit odd that people were complaining about it. Poor old Artemis is trying his best to sort out the mess, after all.

I know you could say 'it was in the original rules' and 'they should honour the original statements' (which you have every right to do) but when someone is actually trying to make things better, it seems a bit needy... especially when we are talking about toy soldiers.

I could understand it if your house, livelyhood or reputation was at stake... but it is just toy soldiers... and it isn't as if you aren't getting your work back in one form or other so you get to hold it on high and say 'I did that!'

Maybe I am just getting to a point in life where I don't view things like this as important... I have other things that take a higher priority.

Who knows? But no nerve has been touched :D.

Maybe, I just get disappointed with the way people are sometimes... including myself?


 
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 18, 2013, 10:04:49 AM
No smilies available in a quick reply :'(
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Dethkor September 18, 2013, 12:09:47 PM

(I agree with the comment about it being like the Dragon, it is, same root issue),

And what root issue would that be? Because for the life of me I can't think of a single similarity.

I was merely saying that both beasts evolved to be more than was originally conceived by their creators.  If I remember correctly Mr. Foster had quite a time taming the dragon, and now Mr. Black and Co. are wrestling with this competition.  I wasn't commenting on anyone's ability to do their job/run a business etc; both small, independent companies go above and beyond for their costumers/fans which can't be easy when your running the show yourself and or raising a family.

I didn't enter the competition to win, what I wanted mostly was to have a mini I'd made in the store, like some of you have with the Dress-a-Kev, if that doesn't happen I'll be disappointed, but I'm not gonna loss any sleep over it. 
I appreciate the opportunity to participate in this competition, and I realize the position they're in is sticky, but my faith in them is unshaken.

Again, best of luck to everyone living in interesting times!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 18, 2013, 01:44:03 PM

(I agree with the comment about it being like the Dragon, it is, same root issue),

And what root issue would that be? Because for the life of me I can't think of a single similarity.

I was merely saying that both beasts evolved to be more than was originally conceived by their creators.  If I remember correctly Mr. Foster had quite a time taming the dragon, and now Mr. Black and Co. are wrestling with this competition.  I wasn't commenting on anyone's ability to do their job/run a business etc; both small, independent companies go above and beyond for their costumers/fans which can't be easy when your running the show yourself and or raising a family.

I didn't enter the competition to win, what I wanted mostly was to have a mini I'd made in the store, like some of you have with the Dress-a-Kev, if that doesn't happen I'll be disappointed, but I'm not gonna loss any sleep over it. 
I appreciate the opportunity to participate in this competition, and I realize the position they're in is sticky, but my faith in them is unshaken.

Again, best of luck to everyone living in interesting times!

2 things, firstly, the first is just to point out that the Dragon thing has been going on for almost 5 'years', I've been talking about a small but sticky issue with this sculpting contest for almost 5 'days', I think comparing the two somewhat escalates our issue to about a gazillion times more than it is :)

Second, I read through the rules when Jenn and I took over the contest and I may be missing something somewhere but were people under the impression that 'all' castable entries were going in the shop? Was that said somewhere I have missed (quite possible, it's a big forum and there's facebook too)?
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: PossumCraft September 18, 2013, 02:01:32 PM
I was of the understanding that all castable entries were going to be cast for their sculptor and would be eligible for winning the competition, nothing about going in the store.
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: Inso September 18, 2013, 02:11:19 PM
I was of the understanding that all castable entries were going to be cast for their sculptor and would be eligible for winning the competition, nothing about going in the store.

That was my understanding.

The ones that Kev liked would be the ones that went into the shop (if he chose to use them...)
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: Artemis Black September 18, 2013, 02:14:51 PM

Ok, just checking I hadn't missed something else important there :)
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: Internalclock September 18, 2013, 02:47:07 PM
I jumped to the conclusion that if they were being cast that they would go up on the store as you have to cast the whole mould as many times as you want copies of the most popular mini on it. And it didnt make sence to cast a mini for one copy :)

I'm personally hoping that the brass tools will hold out long enough for me to order a set to be packed with my minis :D
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: Artemis Black September 18, 2013, 03:02:19 PM
I jumped to the conclusion that if they were being cast that they would go up on the store as you have to cast the whole mould as many times as you want copies of the most popular mini on it. And it didnt make sence to cast a mini for one copy :)

I'm personally hoping that the brass tools will hold out long enough for me to order a set to be packed with my minis :D

A green going into a mould makes it a master mould. Those will be spun for prizes for entrants and a number of those masters will be taken out of the pile to create a production mould for any minis we add to the store.

(Barring any unearthed promises I have missed the likely outcome will be the winners and some other entries chosen by HF will be added to the same page as the Dress-a-Kevs and we'll change the categories name)
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: perceptionistruth September 18, 2013, 11:41:05 PM

(I agree with the comment about it being like the Dragon, it is, same root issue),

And what root issue would that be? Because for the life of me I can't think of a single similarity.

Underestimating total interest.
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: perceptionistruth September 18, 2013, 11:44:28 PM
It doesn't dismiss how other people feel, it is simply me stating my opinion just the same as everyone else. Even if it was me dismissing other people, what does it matter? I have no affiliation with the competition and I can be ignored just the same as everyone else.

In my personal view, your whole tone was dismissive.  I'll leave it there.

I suppose 'the root cause of the dragon' was the massive take-up / buy in? Because that is the only similarity I can see.

Yep.  Not a sin, not something to be complained about and I'm not, but an example of a small company doing something they wanted to, for good reasons, but being overwhelmed by the response.
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: Internalclock September 19, 2013, 07:14:54 AM
I jumped to the conclusion that if they were being cast that they would go up on the store as you have to cast the whole mould as many times as you want copies of the most popular mini on it. And it didnt make sence to cast a mini for one copy :)

I'm personally hoping that the brass tools will hold out long enough for me to order a set to be packed with my minis :D

A green going into a mould makes it a master mould. Those will be spun for prizes for entrants and a number of those masters will be taken out of the pile to create a production mould for any minis we add to the store.

(Barring any unearthed promises I have missed the likely outcome will be the winners and some other entries chosen by HF will be added to the same page as the Dress-a-Kevs and we'll change the categories name)

Sounds fair to me :)
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: Inso September 19, 2013, 07:26:52 AM

In my personal view, your whole tone was dismissive. I'll leave it there.


Now you are guilty of what you accuse me of :D. I now feel dismissed  :lmao.

I'll leave it there  :lmao!

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: Ben Brownlie September 19, 2013, 08:13:10 AM

1. I'm really not that cuddly

I am the world's fattest ninja btw.

There you go with those mixed messages again!

Cuddles

:D
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: beefcake September 19, 2013, 10:55:03 AM
No one cuddles a ninja, no matter there size. :lol:
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: Ben Brownlie September 19, 2013, 11:04:31 AM
No one cuddles a ninja, no matter there size. :lol:

Really? Check the profile text ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 20, 2013, 03:20:53 PM

So I have to hide a from ya at Salute again? Hugging freak.

Update on the comp - Photography is almost over, I've cut together the composites for the modern category and will move on to the fantasy category later today.

We have polling software sorted and have tested it, seems to be fine. Will be an open vote, people may vote for up to 3 in each category (if we can get that to work properly which is a smal sticking point at the moment), voting should be protected by IP and cookie so multi-voting will require someone to 'really' want to mess with the contest :)

Only things left to sort out are a couple of people who we have found never sent their entry in at all, a final decision on the casting issues and then the voting/prizes etc.
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: PossumCraft September 20, 2013, 04:07:47 PM
woohoo
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: Vargrz September 21, 2013, 07:18:00 PM
I am looking forward to seeing all the entries again in the new photos! 
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: perceptionistruth September 22, 2013, 12:38:16 AM
I am looking forward to seeing all the entries again in the new photos!

 :metoo:
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: Leader of the Rats September 22, 2013, 02:03:13 AM

(Of course if anyone is making or planning to make an order around delivery time then by all means let us know so we can include your freebies with it instead of unnecessarilly sending two parcels within a few days of each other :) In fact we might even offer a code to incenitivise doing just that now that it's been brought to my mind, will think about that)

I plan to make an order for some decals and more dollies to practice my sculpting (It's Hasslefrees fault for giving me the itch) and perhaps a mini or two. If anything is coming my way from the contest, let me know by email so I can do that, if you don't mind.

A green going into a mould makes it a master mould. Those will be spun for prizes for entrants and a number of those masters will be taken out of the pile to create a production mould for any minis we add to the store.

If I win (doubtful) I'd be estatic, but I'd be pretty happy to see my entry in the shop too. If not that even, I'm glad to have participated. Can't wait for the next one (Hopefully I'll be a lot better at sculpting by then :) )
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 22, 2013, 09:39:21 AM
And if there's a next one you might wanna limit it to one entry per person :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 22, 2013, 05:11:38 PM
And if there's a next one you might wanna limit it to one entry per person :P

There'll definitely be a next one and yes the rules will be slightly different :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 23, 2013, 07:36:29 AM
And if there's a next one you might wanna limit it to one entry per person :P

There'll definitely be a next one and yes the rules will be slightly different :)

But I really enjoyed making my 4 entrys ; ; I think I learnt a lot and feel like my technique had improved by the last one :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake September 23, 2013, 08:27:27 AM
I think more than one entry should be fine. If someone sculpted two really awesome sculpts then it could be hard to decide which to enter.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 26, 2013, 05:24:35 PM

Could all entrants please check their spam boxes etc. to make sure they got the most recent email from us about the competition.

It was sent from pictures@hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk and has the most up to date information in it in advance of us announcing it proper. If you didn't get it let either me or Jenn know so we can update your details if they happen to be wrong or resend it if they're correct and it just died in the aether.

Ta :)
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: PossumCraft September 26, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
cool, looking forward to seeing all the entries again :D
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: cdukino September 26, 2013, 06:57:59 PM
Yay. The competition is moving again. I can't wait to see all entries.

I'm fine if my sculpt doesn't get cast because it didn't win or is uncastable, or both. Ofcourse having it cast would be the most fun. But if it won't/can't be done, no hard feelings from my end.

If it doesn't get cast I of course would love to have the green back (as already stated it would be). But if for some reason Hasslefree wants to cast it (winner or not), but in doubt if it will survive the casting process intact but it's worth a shot. I will official state that: By all means try to cast it despite the risk. And if it's not to much to ask just send me back the mangled remains after if it does "explode" ;) if that's not to much work ^^
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus September 26, 2013, 07:27:30 PM
Totally missed the resuscitation of this whole thing, but great to see it up and running again!

Hadn't checked this thread since the long silence in August, and what with university busy again, had actually forgotten about it. Now that it's back, however, my heart is racing through my thoracic cavity again - not because I might win (never expected that), but simply to find out if my entry would in fact, in any way, be castable.. I took care to enter something that I though could be casted, but what do I know about that?

Just wanted to say a massive thanks to all of you who are working on making this competition work, and I'm sure that whatever you decide will be as fair as possible under these circumstances. There has been a lot of hassle (I'm sure there is the opportunity for a great pun there), but you've decided to invest even more time in this to bring it to a good end. Thanks!
Wait, that isn't exactly massive. Just slightly big.. let's see...

Thanks!

Yeah.. that's better :thumbup:

And please, don't forget to remind us that having the green (and any casts) send back will be a lot cheaper if you can add it to an order - because I'm sure to find something to order at the time, because you surely have been through enough trouble already and because, otherwise, I'm sure to have forget it otherwise!
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: Bioptic September 26, 2013, 10:14:46 PM
I too was summoned by the latest email, so all appears to be working correctly there! I'm more than happy with the revised rules/photographs (couldn't get a completely in focus macro shot for toffee). I had hoped for metal versions of my 2 entries,  but that was always more of a vanity thing compared to actually properly sculpting something!  My thanks for finally handling what seems to have been a very tricky situation.  Rather better than some kickstarters I've seen, I might add...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Vargrz September 27, 2013, 02:50:57 AM
I was thrilled to see the email!  Can't wait to see all the great sculpts again!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 27, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
Email made it past my spam filter :) Can't wait to see all the entrys photographed under the same conditions by someone who knows how to take a macro image :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 28, 2013, 12:28:36 PM

Technical hitch with the polling software/site *mutter* Sorted now but we'd still like to start the polling at midnight GMT so it'll be tonight instead now.

Newsletter tomorrow will highlight the poll for all of HF's subscribers to help offset any block friend voting for those of you worried about that :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 28, 2013, 10:58:56 PM
Let the voting begin!

Here are the links to the three polls, one for Modern sculpts, another for Fantasy sculpts, and a final for Sci-fi sculpts.  Please have a look through all the entries, and choose your favourite 3 from each category. Anyone can vote and I'm sure the entrants would appreciate it :)

All polls close on Monday, October 7 at midnight. We'll remind everyone in our newsletters tomorrow and next week.

Happy voting!

Modern:
http://www.addpoll.com/mrshasslefree/poll/modern-category-sculpting-competition-2012

Fantasy:
http://www.addpoll.com/mrshasslefree/poll/fantasy-category-sculpting-competition-2012

Sci-Fi:
http://www.addpoll.com/mrshasslefree/poll/sci-fi-category-sculpting-competition-2012

Feel free to spread the word etc.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Ajsalium September 28, 2013, 11:25:54 PM
I have just had a look.

Wow!

Amazing.

Having to select only three for each genre is going to be real hard.

My deepest congratulations for all participants, for the ability and imagination showed.
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: beefcake September 28, 2013, 11:53:57 PM
Cool
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: Macabre September 29, 2013, 12:06:02 AM
Again......WOW.  :jawdrop:

Very sterling entries, and soooooo difficult to pick just three  :?
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: Mr Teufel September 29, 2013, 01:44:51 AM
Voted. Some really great stuff in there!
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: daeothar September 29, 2013, 07:27:46 AM
Voted: good luck everyone!

Some real beauties in there...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus September 29, 2013, 09:56:02 AM
Another reason why I'd have preferred a system where the people at Hasslefree would choose the winners - I'm terrible at making decisions, and there are (way) more than three excellent entries in each category!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 29, 2013, 10:18:57 AM
Hrm the poll site seems to have just keeled over :S pages won't load :'(
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: ink the troll September 29, 2013, 10:50:24 AM
Hrm the poll site seems to have just keeled over :S pages won't load :'(
Seems to have been a temporary problem only though- works fine now (the site loads, didn't check if voting works as I already did vote yesterday).
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: PossumCraft September 29, 2013, 11:06:13 AM
is there any confirmation that votes have been counted? I select, click vote and it just flashes to the top of the page and doesn't do anything

edit: voted on sci-fi and fantasy, doesnt seem to wanna accept my vote on modern :P
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: Coenus September 29, 2013, 11:15:18 AM
First category I voted on gave no confirmation (or other reaction whatsoever), but when I tried to vote again, it said I already had voted there, so it came through after all.
Other two categories showed a confirmation immediately after voting. If in doubt, just give it another try!
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: No Head Ned September 29, 2013, 12:44:35 PM
First category I voted on gave no confirmation (or other reaction whatsoever), but when I tried to vote again, it said I already had voted there, so it came through after all.
Other two categories showed a confirmation immediately after voting. If in doubt, just give it another try!
And everybody gets disqualified for voting twice. :silly
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: PossumCraft September 29, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
Is that it? After it fails to count your vote once and you try again it disqualifies you?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: No Head Ned September 29, 2013, 01:44:45 PM
First category I voted on gave no confirmation (or other reaction whatsoever), but when I tried to vote again, it said I already had voted there, so it came through after all.
Other two categories showed a confirmation immediately after voting. If in doubt, just give it another try!
And everybody gets disqualified for voting twice. :silly
Is that it? After it fails to count your vote once and you try again it disqualifies you?
Please note use of "Silly" icon.
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: PossumCraft September 29, 2013, 02:47:20 PM
didnt know that's what that was :P
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: Steel Penguin September 29, 2013, 05:15:35 PM
ive voted as well...  :thumbup:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 29, 2013, 05:42:45 PM

Voting seems fine at the moment. If there are any momentary outages just try again later.

Not sure why some people aren't getting a thanks for voting type message, we did when we tested it. Either way if it says you already voted then it mans your previous vote has been counted and future votes will just be ignored, there's no disqualifications etc. :)

It's possible the lack of voting message etc. is because we've hidden the results, we figured it would be more fun that way. Normally you can follow the results as you go along on these things but it tends to encourage the 'cool' effect etc. imo. I prefer blind voting, plus you get the cool 'And the winners  are...' announcement :)
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: Gangrel September 29, 2013, 07:50:52 PM
I can't vote as I get the "You have already voted" message. We assume because El had voted before me and we share the same IP. I'll vote from work in the week; not ballot stuffing, I promise, just getting one vote each.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Vargrz September 29, 2013, 07:54:37 PM
I was thrilled to vote and can't believe how cool all the minis are! 
Is there someplace to see the numbers as the are compiled, or will we just get an announcement when the voting phase is over?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 29, 2013, 08:20:12 PM
I can't vote as I get the "You have already voted" message. We assume because El had voted before me and we share the same IP. I'll vote from work in the week; not ballot stuffing, I promise, just getting one vote each.

Yes, it's IP blocked sorry. Part of the software. And no problem about voting from work :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 29, 2013, 08:20:33 PM
I was thrilled to vote and can't believe how cool all the minis are! 
Is there someplace to see the numbers as the are compiled, or will we just get an announcement when the voting phase is over?

Read my post a couple above yours ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel September 29, 2013, 08:57:14 PM
I can't vote as I get the "You have already voted" message. We assume because El had voted before me and we share the same IP. I'll vote from work in the week; not ballot stuffing, I promise, just getting one vote each.

Yes, it's IP blocked sorry. Part of the software. And no problem about voting from work :)

No need to apologise, it's no real hassle. I just have to wait until later on in the week as I'm being allowed out of the lab for a couple of days.
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: Leader of the Rats September 30, 2013, 02:14:53 AM
Voted no problem. So many great entries that was a hard vote. Best of luck everyone!
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: Cait Sidhe September 30, 2013, 02:09:22 PM
De-lurking to throw my votes in, some good stuff there.  :thumbup:
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: Bahir September 30, 2013, 07:34:01 PM
Really amazing stuff there!  I can't wait to see how it turns out.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Vargrz October 01, 2013, 04:32:27 AM
Sorry Artemis!  I hadn't read your earlier post (embarrassed that I missed it).  Blind voting is cool!
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: Internalclock October 01, 2013, 10:23:01 AM
Voted! Good thing about having so many ace entrys is that the votes get spread a bit :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: drakkol October 01, 2013, 01:35:23 PM
Voted  and asked to vote for all cathegories. Good luck to everyone and...fingers crossed!

we've hidden the results, we figured it would be more fun that way. Normally you can follow the results as you go along on these things but it tends to encourage the 'cool' effect etc. imo. I prefer blind voting, plus you get the cool 'And the winners  are...' announcement :)

Well done. :applause:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 01, 2013, 02:17:31 PM
I had no trouble voting.
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: Dethkor October 01, 2013, 03:54:31 PM
 :metoo: Voted without incident.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 02, 2013, 10:26:31 AM
Is it just me or does it not say anywhere that you can vote for three in each catagory on the polls themselves?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 02, 2013, 02:31:37 PM
Is it just me or does it not say anywhere that you can vote for three in each catagory on the polls themselves?

Good point, Jenn agreed and fixed it :)
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: Balgin Stondraeg October 02, 2013, 06:02:38 PM
I know this is going to come across as very cliche but..... I really like them. There are so many good sculpts this time 'round. I'm looking over them all having a very hard time narrowing down a selection. There are some that look really good. Some I think would cast up really well. Some I thin k it would be interesting and/or challenging to paint. There are so many different qualities that appeal to me about different sculpts that I'm sitting here trying to work out "what are my voting criteria?" I think, in the end, it's going to have to come down to if I want to own a particular miniature. To own it, paint it, and proudly display it on a gaming table or among my collection.

I'm kind of stumped. In at least two of the categories I want to vote for more than I'm allowed. I'm actually going to have to take some time and think this over before commiting to anything.
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: Balgin Stondraeg October 02, 2013, 07:29:59 PM
Well I've finally narrowed down the fantasy section to about 9 or 10 I want to vote for. Time to be more discerning as I've managed to narrow it down to 3 in each of the other two categories. In fact I've called in second & third opinions on some of them. Not neccessarily to change my mind but rather to discuss the merrits of the various sculpts and to get different points of view. Two friends both immediately fixated on a sculpt that didn't appeal to me as much and, after some chit chat, I could see exactly what they liked about it. Always nice to have multiple points of view so I can better appreciate the sculptors' art.

Oh and hey, I'm not one of the official judges. If I'm this torn over some of them then imagine how much thought the actual judges are giving things.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel October 02, 2013, 08:41:52 PM
I was in work today and so was able to cast my votes. Congrats to all concerned.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Balgin Stondraeg October 02, 2013, 08:55:53 PM
Oh bother. I've narrowed down the fantasy selection to four. Can't I just vote for four? You know, honourable mention and all that? Oh well, now I've got to think tactically and see who gets my vote.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 02, 2013, 08:57:46 PM
Just vote for me if you are undecided :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Balgin Stondraeg October 02, 2013, 09:04:34 PM
Just vote for me if you are undecided :)

I honestly don't know which ones you sculpted mate although I could often spot the same sculptor's work across categories (for example, I really think that one model in the sci fi category was sculpted by the same person as one in the fantasy category (similar detail work) and of course I could spot the ubiquitous onesie collection :)).

I tell you what 'though, that sorceress with the really big "egg spoon staff" got my attention. I like the fact that the cloth draped over the top and wrapped around the length of the staff is a carricature of her own hood and face. I'd like to see a really talented painter paint the bulge within the staff's "hood" as a stylised version of the woman's face with her hair draped down across it again. Sort of like she needs to assert her dominant ego.

Care to pm me which ones you sculpted beefy?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 02, 2013, 09:26:05 PM
It wouldn't be fair to really so I won't :) I know some people may be getting every man and their dog to vote for their miniature but I won't go on a voting campaign. There are some absolutely awesome sculpts in there. I think whisper is my favourite. I think it is in the moderns. I also really like the one with the cracked mirror.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Balgin Stondraeg October 02, 2013, 11:13:57 PM
It wouldn't be fair to really so I won't :) I know some people may be getting every man and their dog to vote for their miniature but I won't go on a voting campaign. There are some absolutely awesome sculpts in there. I think whisper is my favourite. I think it is in the moderns. I also really like the one with the cracked mirror.

Oh I've already finalised my votes so you can tell me now. (Privately so it doesn't influence anyone else). I wouldn't have made that post if I hadn't made up my mind about all of them.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 02, 2013, 11:52:37 PM
Oh right. Sounds good.
Not sure if mine have a great chance to be honest. One I think is quite good but the other is a bit lacking.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel October 03, 2013, 12:06:42 AM
Oh right. Sounds good.
Not sure if mine have a great chance to be honest. One I think is quite good but the other is a bit lacking.

I know the feeling. I shared the voting link on Facebook, but also didn't identify which sculpt was mine. Frankly there's easily three (and the rest) better than mine in the category.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Balgin Stondraeg October 03, 2013, 06:46:56 AM
Once the voting's over I'll gladly share which ones I voted for provided I can remember it. There were at least 3 runners up that I wanted to vote for in the Fantasy category. Is there a way for me to go and see what I voted for? Probably not but I'll just have to jot it down on a piece of paper or something while I can remember it.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 03, 2013, 07:29:48 AM
For some reason I'd be interested to hear how many votes have been cast and what the lead is like without being told the minatures specifically. looking at the polls there were minatures in there that I swear I hadn't seen in the album. still totally riding this excitment train :D

Also, I recon you'll probibly do this anyway, but I hope when the results are in that there isnt a post with votes numbers next to minatures. I'd be really crushed seeing a 0 by any of my figures and wouldn't want that for anyone.

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 03, 2013, 01:50:01 PM
For some reason I'd be interested to hear how many votes have been cast and what the lead is like without being told the minatures specifically. looking at the polls there were minatures in there that I swear I hadn't seen in the album. still totally riding this excitment train :D

Also, I recon you'll probibly do this anyway, but I hope when the results are in that there isnt a post with votes numbers next to minatures. I'd be really crushed seeing a 0 by any of my figures and wouldn't want that for anyone.

We won't be releasing actual figures, for mainly the reason you say (although almost certainly nobody will have 0 votes), we don't think anyone deserves to see their name next to last place. Entering at all required time and effort and they should be proud they did something.

The competition will be in this weeks newsletter so that will increase the votes further but my guess is that total votes for each category will be well into 4 figures by the end.

None of the prize winners in any of the 3 categories has an unassailable lead and in 2 of the categories I wouldn't put money on either the winner or second place.

That's the best I can do ;)

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 03, 2013, 02:39:13 PM
For some reason I'd be interested to hear how many votes have been cast and what the lead is like without being told the minatures specifically. looking at the polls there were minatures in there that I swear I hadn't seen in the album. still totally riding this excitment train :D

Also, I recon you'll probibly do this anyway, but I hope when the results are in that there isnt a post with votes numbers next to minatures. I'd be really crushed seeing a 0 by any of my figures and wouldn't want that for anyone.

We won't be releasing actual figures, for mainly the reason you say (although almost certainly nobody will have 0 votes), we don't think anyone deserves to see their name next to last place. Entering at all required time and effort and they should be proud they did something.

The competition will be in this weeks newsletter so that will increase the votes further but my guess is that total votes for each category will be well into 4 figures by the end.

None of the prize winners in any of the 3 categories has an unassailable lead and in 2 of the categories I wouldn't put money on either the winner or second place.

That's the best I can do ;)


Good enough for me  :smile:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 07, 2013, 06:32:39 PM

I can only apologise to the entrants for the fact that this weeks newsletter has been unavoidable delayed due to one of the sections on it turning into a 'much' bigger job than anticipated. Which means there won't be a newsletter for the contest. (Our only other option was to rush out a Sculpting contest only newsletter and we get some harsh penalties if anyone marks anything as spam and two newsletters so close together sometimes  irk people)

We have given it a nudge on our Facebook page (quoted below). We will 'definitely' give the results etc. a newsletter of it's own.

Anyway...

Voting ends tonight at Midnight on this so if you haven't voted yet please remember to do so. None of the prizes are safe as it's quite close at the top in all 3 categories!

(For real as opposed to some American Idol style grab for more votes despite someone having coughed up a hairball on stage and is clearly going home ;) )
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 07, 2013, 06:52:59 PM
Does this mean announcing results is delayed or..? I'm not really up on the schedule for newsletters, so wasn't actually expecting anything anyway
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 07, 2013, 07:03:34 PM
Does this mean announcing results is delayed or..? I'm not really up on the schedule for newsletters, so wasn't actually expecting anything anyway

Nope, nothing else has changed. There was just going ot be a section in this week's newsletter to draw more attention to the contest and now the newsletter has been delayed past the end of the contest.

The results will be tallied and checked this week, we'll pick our 'HF Choice' winners' and then announce all the winners on the weekend more than likely.

As for castings etc, it will probably take until about Christmas. It would be sooner but HF are off on a road trip to the States in a few weeks which will interrupt everythign on our schedule.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 07, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
Sounds good
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 08, 2013, 07:25:38 AM
Awesome!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: drakkol October 08, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
Perfect!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin October 08, 2013, 06:44:44 PM
do we know who won yet,do we know who won yet,do we know who won yet,do we know who won yet,do we know who won yet,do we know who won yet,do we know who won yet,do we know who won yet,do we know who won yet,??
I can fairly certainly say it wasn't me so I thought id get the question in 1st!!  :lalala:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Grulgor October 08, 2013, 07:52:45 PM
Just vote for me if you are undecided :)

I honestly don't know which ones you sculpted mate although I could often spot the same sculptor's work across categories (for example, I really think that one model in the sci fi category was sculpted by the same person as one in the fantasy category (similar detail work) and of course I could spot the ubiquitous onesie collection :)).

I tell you what 'though, that sorceress with the really big "egg spoon staff" got my attention. I like the fact that the cloth draped over the top and wrapped around the length of the staff is a carricature of her own hood and face. I'd like to see a really talented painter paint the bulge within the staff's "hood" as a stylised version of the woman's face with her hair draped down across it again. Sort of like she needs to assert her dominant ego.

Care to pm me which ones you sculpted beefy?

Well since the polls finished I can definitely admit to having a big grin seeing that, as the sorceress with the 'egg spoon staff' is mine. At least someone liked it, I'll go ahead and feel rather chuffed now thank you  :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 08, 2013, 08:11:15 PM
The Welshman said they'll likely tell us about the weekend
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 08, 2013, 08:33:01 PM

I know who won, does that count?  :paranoid2:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 08, 2013, 08:34:47 PM
Depends. What's it cost for me to know, too?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: cdukino October 08, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Depends. What's it cost for me to know, too?

I think the cost is about 4 days of patience ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 09, 2013, 01:24:33 PM
Is it the weekend yet?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: drakkol October 11, 2013, 11:54:12 AM
I know who won, does that count?  :paranoid2:

Not really.  :shrug: 

C'mon...at least a clue about winners...:paranoid2:

My sincere compliments to them :applause:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 11, 2013, 06:57:42 PM

Won't be long now :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 11, 2013, 07:52:45 PM
Well it's the weekend for me now so you can tell me :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mr Teufel October 12, 2013, 12:36:49 AM
10:30 Saturday morning here! Who won? :shrug:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Balgin Stondraeg October 12, 2013, 06:32:14 AM
Well since the voting is closed I can reveal what I voted for. Or at least I could if I could remember the entries. I know what I voted for in the modern category & that in the Fantasy category there were 6 figures I wanted to vote for so I had to indulge in a little tactical voting. This was based on which sculpts looked like they would be popular enough already and which ones might need my support.

I really thought the egg spoon sorceress was a winner so, alas, she did not get ym vote (although she would have done if I hadn't wanted to support one or two sculpts that I suspected might fall by the wayside).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 12, 2013, 07:39:41 AM
I honestly can't remember who I voted for now qithout seeing the pics. Only Whisper I remember, that was the one with the crow.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 12, 2013, 08:56:54 AM
<3 the one with the birdy
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 12, 2013, 10:41:02 AM
TELL US! :angel:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 12, 2013, 10:50:16 AM
Subtlety, you have no place here.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus October 12, 2013, 10:56:35 AM
Won't tell what I voted for, simply because I can't remember all of it - but I do want to say that I absolutely loved this one, very professional and creative. Whoever made it: well done!

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa378/DiomedesOfArgos/3e60159bfb0f0425763574ee595f285b_zps36810ecd.jpg~original)

(and I'm not actually a fan of steampunk..!)

Also, can't wait for the results...  :boing:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Ajsalium October 12, 2013, 11:49:03 AM
I too voted for Dukino's (spelling?) chick with crow.
And the Medusa, that I think was made by Beefy.
And the Sleiti Inso made.

I can't remember my other six votes! :lol:

But as I said, I was fairly impressed by the quantity and quality of the entries. Choosing just three for each category was very though, and I'm fairly certain results must have been very close.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 12, 2013, 12:03:35 PM
Is there a name for that vague feeling that somehow, somewhere, a welshman is cackling maniacally to himself as he enjoys making you wait..?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus October 12, 2013, 12:42:59 PM
"Paranoia" comes to mind.. unless it is justified, in which case that welshman simply is rather mean!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: cdukino October 12, 2013, 02:32:45 PM
I can't quite recall which ones I voted on as there were a lot of great entries and i spend a lot of time thinking... oh this one, click... oh no... that one... damn, got to many... look at them all again ^^ So My memories plays tricks at me now... did I click or change it?
I did love the steampunk ones and I gave votes to the one Coenus linked, and the one in the modern gallery.

Thanks to anyone who gave me their votes, and thanks for looking at it for those who didn't :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bungle October 12, 2013, 04:23:04 PM
mr du naill ai'n sadistaidd neu ddim yn gweithio y penwythnos hwn.

Nid wyf yn beio iddo am gael penwythnos i ffwrdd.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 12, 2013, 05:10:34 PM
they're multiplying...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 12, 2013, 05:40:26 PM
mr du naill ai'n sadistaidd neu ddim yn gweithio y penwythnos hwn.

Nid wyf yn beio iddo am gael penwythnos i ffwrdd.

Little bit of both :) Results will be tomorrow to coincide with HF's longest newsletter ever.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 12, 2013, 05:49:50 PM
could you provide a translation, or is welsh just jibberish with a secret text message to actually say what you mean?

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Grulgor October 12, 2013, 07:19:13 PM
mr du naill ai'n sadistaidd neu ddim yn gweithio y penwythnos hwn.

Nid wyf yn beio iddo am gael penwythnos i ffwrdd.

Little bit of both :) Results will be tomorrow to coincide with HF's longest newsletter ever.

That's just doubling the intrigue, wonder what else is padding it out to the longest ever.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 12, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
mr du naill ai'n sadistaidd neu ddim yn gweithio y penwythnos hwn.

Nid wyf yn beio iddo am gael penwythnos i ffwrdd.

Little bit of both :) Results will be tomorrow to coincide with HF's longest newsletter ever.

Honestly, it's mostly because for about a month all 4 of us here at HF headquarters havebeen busy with stuff, combined with delays in the manufacturing chain means we haven't released much so we're catching back up. There's no big announcements or anything, just a lot to say at once and we plan on continuing that way so there's no room to push anything to next week's newsletter.

That's just doubling the intrigue, wonder what else is padding it out to the longest ever.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bungle October 12, 2013, 09:00:22 PM
could you provide a translation, or is welsh just jibberish with a secret text message to actually say what you mean?

http://imtranslator.net/translation/welsh/to-english/translation/
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 12, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
mr du naill ai'n sadistaidd neu ddim yn gweithio y penwythnos hwn.

Nid wyf yn beio iddo am gael penwythnos i ffwrdd.

Thanks for the translator.

mr black either sadistic or not working this weekend.

I do not blame him for a weekend break.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 13, 2013, 06:53:53 PM
:D
....
:S
....
D:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 13, 2013, 08:07:15 PM
*Drum Roll Please*.....

Ok, after a few thousand votes and some 'very' close battles the votes have been checked and verified and we can announce the public winners of the 2012 Hasslefree Sculpting Competition!

Fantasy Category.

Winner -  Griselda the Stern by Tom Emmett
Runner Up - Bridget by Alessio Cisbani

Modern Category.

Winner - Majesty by Steve Shaw
Runner Up - Whisper by Cindy Dukino

Sci-Fi Category.

Winner - Steampunk Gina by Jack Sutter
Runner Up - Cyberbelle Suzi by Rebecca Eley

A huge congratulations to all the winners, we will be contacting you shortly about your prizes :)

A big thanks to everyone who entered and don't forget there will be a second announcement where we reveal the 'HF Choice' winners who will see their minis immortalised in the HF Store for sale to the public :)

(We figured we'd let the Public Choice winners revel in their glory first :) )

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1374308_648339288531685_647600897_n.jpg)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bungle October 13, 2013, 08:12:46 PM
Well done to all.

Really nice to see 6 different winners.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 13, 2013, 08:16:26 PM
only 2 of my picks :'(

Grats to the winners, well done! excellent entries

(don't we get to know who was 3rd?)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: BlackJack October 13, 2013, 08:18:31 PM
I picked three of those and debated a fourth.  As it stands, I would purchase two or three of the six shown.

Congrats everyone-winners especially!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 13, 2013, 08:26:10 PM
only 2 of my picks :'(

Grats to the winners, well done! excellent entries

(don't we get to know who was 3rd?)

Jenn wanted to show 3rd as it's more traditional but as there's not a 3rd prize I didn't know if it would be a bit like 'Look at what you could have won!' to those 3 people so in the end decided not to.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 13, 2013, 08:31:56 PM
but that's the bit in '90s tv shows where everyone goes 'AAAAAWWWWWW' and has the most fun :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Grulgor October 13, 2013, 08:42:33 PM
Well that's at least a few of my picks, big congratulations to the winners!

(You mean there's no bullys special prize!?)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin October 13, 2013, 09:05:49 PM
 :applause: to the winners
 :blub: I wasn't among them, ( no real surprise there though)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: cdukino October 13, 2013, 10:09:11 PM
Does little victory dance  :boing: ... or bounce ;)

Thanks for the votes everyone :) Now I hope Whisper (and her birds) is cast-able ^^ I tried to make it so. But seeing i'm no caster I'm never 100% sure.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: gi6ers October 13, 2013, 10:16:11 PM
Nice one Cindy.  Still want to see more from the sculptor that brought Hambo into the world.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: drakkol October 13, 2013, 10:23:14 PM
:applause: to the winners
 :blub: I wasn't among them, ( no real surprise there though)

 :metoo:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Macabre October 13, 2013, 10:25:41 PM
Given the level of talent in the other entries, I feel really uncomfortable winning.  :erm:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Balgin Stondraeg October 13, 2013, 10:35:07 PM
Okay, let me check my memory as refreshed by the pictures.....

Modern: I voted for  Whisper, Sienna Paco & Majesty.

Sci Fi: Steampunk Gina (who looks like she was sculpted by the same person as the bagpipe toting Bard in the fantasy category) & two others that I can't remember right now.

For the Fantasy category I voted for Griselda the Stern although I was concerned as to why her wimple seemed to have a side parting. Perhaps it's supposed to be painted as hair after all. Definately a very characterful piece. I also voted for the little axe wielding girl right down at the bottom of the poll who probably got overlooked by some. The mail shirt wasn't perfectly sculpted (and the sleeve had little visible means of support) but I could see a lot of character and potential there. I wasn't sure if the hide covering was supposed to have a hole in it on the front of the shield or if it was just an error in the sculpting so I gave it the benefit of the doubt as that would be a nice detail. I wish the strands of hair that went back to make the plait stood out more on the sides of the head as they kind of blended in.

I did not vote for Beefcake's Medusa (although she came really close) neither did I support the Egg Spoon staff sorceress (because she was such a quality piece the little viking/saxon axe girl got my tactical vote instead). I think my third vote went to the Bagpipe toting Bard although I had some concerns regarding how the arms would fit together with the body. The bagpipes could be one piece, two or even three. I know there were six figures that I wanted to vote for in the fantasy category so, unfortunately, three had to go without and simply hope they had enough mass appeal to get voted for by everyone else.

I did find it interesting spotting sculptors' work across multiple categories. I think I voted for one of the ubiquitous onesie girls although I can't remember which category she was in.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Balgin Stondraeg October 13, 2013, 10:37:06 PM
:applause: to the winners
 :blub: I wasn't among them, ( no real surprise there though)

Hey, hey. That's just the public vote winners. The HF choice winners haven't been announced yet :).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: cdukino October 13, 2013, 10:42:08 PM
Nice one Cindy.  Still want to see more from the sculptor that brought Hambo into the world.

Well you might in time. I am actually getting back into the hobby again. In fact I am painting for an online competition (Wyrd) as I write this. Well not at exactly the same time, but I am splattering paint over the keys by holding the brush while typing. So I think that counts ;)

I am at the moment working on another conversion sculpt competition as well (Maow miniatures). And working on a new sculpt from scratch. And tons of ideas bubbling.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: gi6ers October 13, 2013, 11:05:31 PM
Nice one Cindy.  Still want to see more from the sculptor that brought Hambo into the world.

Well you might in time. I am actually getting back into the hobby again. In fact I am painting for an online competition (Wyrd) as I write this. Well not at exactly the same time, but I am splattering paint over the keys by holding the brush while typing. So I think that counts ;)

Yeah, that counts.  Welcome back  :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake October 13, 2013, 11:28:00 PM
Congrats to all the winners and entrants. I'm really looking forward to getting these in my grubby mitts!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 14, 2013, 07:29:33 AM
Grats to all the winners and fingers crossed to the rest of us on the staff picks :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel October 14, 2013, 07:38:00 AM
Only one of my picks, but as that one was Whisper I really don't mind.   :D  Brilliant work. Congratulations all round.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: daeothar October 14, 2013, 08:00:09 AM
Congrats to all winners! Well done; there are a couple of cracking sculpts in there! :thumbup:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus October 14, 2013, 10:08:53 AM
Well done and well deserved to all the winners, not many surprises there either (voted for most of them in fact!).

Also, thanks to Balgin Stondraeg for his vote, that shieldmaiden was mine. Totally agree that it's far for perfect, and I'd love it to have another go, or at least add some putty to make certain parts stand out more, definitely redo some parts of the chainmail - didn't have time for all that at time of the competition, as the last layer was barely dry when I had to take the pics and send her in!
The shield was entirely flat by the way, that 'damage' was just a stain (pressed putty in a slightly rusty piece of metal that was exactly the right shape - couldn't for the life of me create a good circle otherwise!).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Mr Teufel October 14, 2013, 12:28:23 PM
Congrats to the winners so far! :applause: :applause: :applause:

Well you might in time. I am actually getting back into the hobby again. In fact I am painting for an online competition (Wyrd) as I write this. Well not at exactly the same time, but I am splattering paint over the keys by holding the brush while typing. So I think that counts ;)

I am at the moment working on another conversion sculpt competition as well (Maow miniatures). And working on a new sculpt from scratch. And tons of ideas bubbling.
Yay! Welcome back!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock October 14, 2013, 12:29:14 PM
So... Whats the deets for the next comp?  8)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 14, 2013, 01:38:18 PM
So... Whats the deets for the next comp?  8)

Rule #1 - Next person who asks about it can't enter ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Balgin Stondraeg October 14, 2013, 01:53:24 PM
Also, thanks to Balgin Stondraeg for his vote, that shieldmaiden was mine. Totally agree that it's far for perfect, and I'd love it to have another go, or at least add some putty to make certain parts stand out more, definitely redo some parts of the chainmail - didn't have time for all that at time of the competition, as the last layer was barely dry when I had to take the pics and send her in!
The shield was entirely flat by the way, that 'damage' was just a stain (pressed putty in a slightly rusty piece of metal that was exactly the right shape - couldn't for the life of me create a good circle otherwise!).

That's alright. I really liked her. She had character. I considered rummaging through my bits box for a makeshift shoulder pad to cover that off the shoulder blouse look or actually leaving it bare. It sparked a lot of thought and that's always a good thing for me. The boots weren't quite historical but that also gave pause for thought. She's mostly practical but........ why does shew ear these magic boots of hobbling imbalance? Perhaps they are cursed? Maybe they aren't magical after all  :huh?:  muahahahaha.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus October 14, 2013, 02:36:26 PM
I figured that if women can walk, even dance on high heels, an immortal valkyrie should be able to fight that way!
She is meant to be a mix between Norse shieldmaiden (chainmail, regular shield and axe) and fantasy elements (chainmail as dress with long sleeves and bare shoulder, high heels) so that people could use her as both - in an ideal world, I'd have made two such fighty females, a seperate one for each purpose. Will probably still do so at some point, when I've got a bit more sculpting experience (this entry was only my second sculpt).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bungle October 14, 2013, 03:05:56 PM
So... Whats the deets for the next comp?  8)

Rule #1 - Next person who asks about it can't enter ;)

So... you going to tell us. Unless its 50's B-movie and you want a blob, I won't be entering.  :lol:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 14, 2013, 03:36:53 PM
So... Whats the deets for the next comp?  8)

Rule #1 - Next person who asks about it can't enter ;)

So... you going to tell us. Unless its 50's B-movie and you want a blob, I won't be entering.  :lol:

Nah, won't be til 2014. Way too much stuff to do before getting back to a Sculpting Contest and the next one will be considerably shorter in timescale :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin October 14, 2013, 07:07:28 PM
Balgy   as ive said from the start, I entered for the fun of it, and had no delusions a bought my chances of winning ( and even fewer ones when I saw the quality of some of the other entry's :jawdrop:).
If I get any where in the HF choice set you'll be able to knock me down with a feather, id be so surprised.
But as I said above  :thumbup: and  :applause:  to the winners.
they are well smart looking.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Sigur December 02, 2013, 06:01:21 PM
Sorry, a bit late on the reply.

Anyway, congratulations to the winners. I especially like the fantasy entries.  :thumbup:

I (entering the winged manga-like armoured person in Sci-Fi) didn't win but I didn't expect to. HOWEVER, it got me to sculpting and I really enjoy having this model now, especially now that I can paint it as well. :) Congratulations to everybody who entered, thanks for organizing it to several HF minis people and I'm very much looking forward to the next comp!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black December 02, 2013, 08:12:04 PM

As a reminder brouight me to this thread i should let everyone know that it's incredibly unlikely we'll manage to get the casting done before Christmas.

It took us 2 weeks to catch up with the orders from while we were in the US and then we went straight into December Bonus time. I haven't even had time to come here and update with stuff etc (I'll do that over the next couple days).

Any spare time for moulding is being taken up by fixing existing moulding issues. Sorry guys.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus December 03, 2013, 06:07:39 PM
Really no need to apoligize, it's not like we are entitled to get our free bits before any set date or so.

Appreciate the update though!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock February 05, 2014, 07:21:57 AM
wee update? :) Doing my bestest to hold out ordering the scifi female trooper so it can be sent back with my greens :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black February 06, 2014, 05:56:30 PM
wee update? :) Doing my bestest to hold out ordering the scifi female trooper so it can be sent back with my greens :)

We're hoping to find time at the end of this month to meet with the caster and sort out what can be done with each of the entries. The biggest issue we have is that all the casters, especially the best ones like we use, have already started receiving orders from companies for Salute.

We 'will' get it done, obviously, it may end up being piecemeal aas we squeeze in one mould at a time to schedules.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock February 07, 2014, 07:25:31 AM
*shakes fist at salute*
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Grulgor March 04, 2014, 04:47:45 PM
Well I can't grumble too much as this will be my first time at Salute so I would rather everyone had their stock ready for me to bankrupt myself on!

Quick check, will you be double checking addresses before anything goes ahead as I might've moved (once or twice) since the comp?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock March 05, 2014, 07:25:24 AM
dear god not another complication  :blub:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Leader of the Rats May 24, 2014, 08:03:01 AM
Is this still a thing or was it dropped/backburner? I don't see any of the winners in the store yet so it got me wondering.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin May 24, 2014, 03:57:27 PM
 :metoo:  wondering the same thing a bit here as were now nearly 2 years on from the announcement of the competition..
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black May 27, 2014, 07:00:39 PM

It is currently the number 1 thing on our plate, had a meeting with Sal today about it, we've sorted a proper plan and now Salute and Jenn's holiday is done with, the casters have time for such things again and we can proceed.

We're heading personally over to the casters next week with minis in hand and will start the production process. This'll take a while and we will contact everyone who either Kev has vetoed as uncastable or the caster (who gets final word) has done to let them know the bad news. Masters moulds will be made and castings checked as some of the minis may look castable for the outside but may not survive the physical casting process as we can't see any of the underlying work.

Once we have masters in hand we will check with everyone who entered and make sure we have their current details. What will more than likely happen then is it'll take a month or so to make moulds and get castings etc. and during that period we will let people know that if they make an ordetr they should inform us and we can see if we have enough castings to get them their set and green early. Once we have everything in hand, we will send out the rest.

No matter what, this will all be sorted before our move to a new premises.

There's not much we can say in regards to an apology that hasn't been said, once somethign went wrong it just snowballed and became more and more of an issue to resolve and we've hadless and less a chane to actually do it. Something always seemed to crop up. 'Hopefully' the end result will be worth it for most of you guys and we have a nice long list of 'what not to do' for the next one :)
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: beefcake May 27, 2014, 09:00:19 PM
Nice to know where we are at, at the moment. Thanks :)
Looking forward to see what happens as well.
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: Internalclock May 28, 2014, 07:41:00 AM
I think You have done a bang up job of sticking to your guns and still doing your best even with the problems and the massive spike in interest scaling everything.  :applause:
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: Bioptic June 04, 2014, 11:32:44 AM
Yes, I must confess to being part of the interest spike! I'd never entered anything that I'd sculpted in a competition before, and the very low barrier to entry combined with a (at the time) guaranteed cast of my work in metal seemed too good to be true. Along with the vague hope of being able to vanity-order extra copies of it from Hasslefree for my friends...

But seeing all of the entrants, one of the things I'm most excited about is getting to paint such a huge diversity of models! The underlying armature has quite a distinct look and pose, so it's impressive just how much the style of each sculptor works around that.
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: PossumCraft July 01, 2014, 05:28:56 PM
Did you make the progress you'd hoped through June? Any idea of an eta on anything?

Also what new premises? I thought you guys only moved into a new office last year :O
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: PossumCraft July 11, 2014, 10:23:52 PM
Take the lack of response as a no..?
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: PossumCraft July 16, 2014, 09:30:00 PM
Does anyone even use this forum anymore..?
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: Coenus July 16, 2014, 09:42:45 PM
From newsletter some two weeks ago:
"We finally have some news regarding our sculpting contest from way back that hit some serious turbulence. Will share that on FB  when we get back from the casters sometime this week and in our next newsletter."

Nothing in a newsletter since, as far as I know.

Does anyone even use this forum anymore..?
Yes. Normally in vain...  :erm:
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: beefcake July 16, 2014, 09:49:58 PM
Does anyone even use this forum anymore..?
Yes, quite often. This thread though is seeming a lost cause :(
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: PossumCraft July 16, 2014, 09:55:31 PM
odd, I'm subscribed to the news letter and never saw that. Either way.... May 27th they posted going to the casters next week, so timelines aren't adding up.

I'm a very patient person but I have to say I'm pretty damned sick of waiting for  more nothing on this.
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: Mr Teufel July 17, 2014, 01:18:04 AM
I can understand your concern, and I also am disappointed this is still unfinished after two years.

The people running this (maybe four individuals) are all family business people, their companies often punch above their weight - but they have families to run as well as the business, which often involves a high risk of external events intervening with their ambitious plans. I don't think it's an excuse in the long run, but it is an explanation. How much leeway you grant them? A judgement call, I guess.
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: Internalclock July 17, 2014, 12:08:39 PM
I check this thred daily :P and add the odd thumbs up when I see a nice paint job or sculpt :)
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: PossumCraft July 17, 2014, 12:16:46 PM
don't you just subscribe and get an email if there's a reply? :P then you don't need to check.
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: daeothar July 17, 2014, 01:59:47 PM
I too check on a regular basis. Although the intervals have increased dramatically over the last year...

And that says it all really; last year. Not to step on anyone's toes (one has to be careful obviously), and I understand the basis of the organisation, the pressure and busy schedules, both professionally and personally, but two years is, in my book at least, unacceptable. And all niceties aside, I can't imagine I'm the only one.

I try to be graceful about it, but truth be told, I think it might be time to put the cards on the table and be honest about this. It's hard to believe that over the past two years, there has been no opportunity whatsoever to bring this entire ordeal to an acceptable end. And I find that not good business practice.

If the entire undertaking, which to me seems quite generous and ambitious on the part of Hasslefree, proved itself no longer feasible, then I think this should have been admitted and, in open discussion with the participants, brought to a conclusion. And judging by the friendly and nice atmosphere on this board, I don't think anyone would have objected. I certainly wouldn't have.

So, instead of keeping this entire thing in the Black and White workload, I would like to propose to just accept defeat and put closure to this, by simply returning the sculpts and leave it at that.

Of course, if investments have already been done, those should be considered , because it would naturally not do for Hasslefree to throw their money away.

Considering the friendly atmosphere here, and the understanding everyone has displayed so far, I know this post may seem quite harsh, but it's not meant that way. If anything, I intend my proposal to be helpful, as it does not look like Hasslefree will be able to conclude the contest as promised in the foreseeable future. A way out without losing face, if you will.

So, how do other people feel about this? Again; I do not want to start a flame war or heated discussion. I do not even want to point fingers. What I want to do is see if we can come to some sort of consensus on this, and help Hasslefree get this off their shoulders...
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: alrith72 July 17, 2014, 03:43:15 PM
I have to agree really and I really hate to say it because I have only ever had good stuff to say about Hasslefree. Send the sculpts back, call it quits and have done with. I entered because we were originally going to get our sculpts cast, that changed and is no longer happening. I didn't go for the free armature option, paid for mine. I introduced a friend to Hasslefree via this competition, hate to say but he has no interest in spending anymore money with the company, only a small loss but still a loss.
 I'm the first to admit mine is a steaming pile of dog do but it's my steaming pile of dog do, if it cant be cast can I just have it back please? This is sadly becoming the Hasslefree equivalent of the Heresy Dragon
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: PossumCraft July 17, 2014, 04:30:15 PM
I guess I'd +1 that, too. I entered for the chance to get my own sculpts cast, which seems not likely to happen. Chose to pay for the armatures, too, in hopes it would help the burden Hasslefree were taking on.

As it really, at this point, just seems like something will never end as planned, I'd be happy with sculpts being returned just so I can have something I worked on on the shelf at least.

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: Ironhammer July 17, 2014, 11:17:26 PM
Huh, kind of odd that not having checked this thread in months, I should happen to pick the same day that everyone else is posting.

I hadn't seen the notification back in May that these were off to the casters, so for my own part I'm excited to see things coming along!!!

The overall timeframe aside, I'm not surprised it's been two months with no developments (in fact, what really surprised me was Artemis's post that it would only take one month and not longer).  If you consider the volume of output that Hasselfree usually puts out each month and compare that to the number of entries in this competition (I don't recall the exact number, but it was a LOT, like 80+), this comes out as a pretty darn big bunch of minis.  In fact, I don't think I've ever seen another company (besides someone like GW) come up with 80 new figures in a single month.   :jawdrop:
 
While agree that two years is a long time, we need to bear in mind that this is almost entirely at the expense (both money and time) of the Hasselfree team.  I bought my dollies too (and I consider the money well spent, even if it turns out that the minis don't get cast after all), but that expense to me is not nearly as much as the cost Hasselfree is going to to get these cast (most of which won't even be going into their store on the offchance that people will buy the figure).  The fact that I have to wait a while to get my figure cast for free really doesn't bother me that much, Kudos to Hasselfree for taking this thing on in the first place!   :notworthy:

Anyway, that's my two cents.
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: PossumCraft July 18, 2014, 07:16:30 AM
Hasslefree said, when I asked via facebook; 'Off to see the caster midweek, haven't been able to get over there as we were away.'

Didn't realise they'd been away since May 27th when they said more or less the same thing here but there you go. Hopefully this time it'll happen. =]
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: Internalclock July 18, 2014, 09:04:14 AM
So Long as I get my minis back eventually I'm not overly bothered.
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: daeothar July 18, 2014, 09:40:40 AM
Whilst I understand and respect your sentiments, I'm afraid I will have to disagree.

As I originally posted, I find it hard to believe that over the past two years, there has been no opportunity at all to finish off this contest. I fully agree that it's virtually philantrophic of Hasslefree to have set up this contest in the way they did, but I also believe that the overwhelming response caught them by surprise.

Additionally, most of the participants have been customers and even fans of Hasslefree's, so the perpetual postponing of the conclusion of the contest can eventually only hurt Hasslefree, when patience finally wears thin and disappointment sets in.

So, and apologies for sounding like a broken record, instead of dragging this along forever, trying to do it all and potentially alienate part of their customer base, I think it might be more beneficial for them to admit that this thing has grown too big, time consuming and expensive to be viable. Like I said; I don't think there will be any hard feelings amongst the contestants, as long as they get their sculpts back.

Of course the process might be too far along at this time to stop now, because of commitments made to the caster for instance. But, and correct me if I'm wrong, judging by the sporadic update posts, I don't think that's already the case.

In the end though, and this is my personal feeling, I think it's a case of commitment and drive, or else, the contest would already have been over and done. I'm not putting down Hasslefree's effort, zeal and commitment to the running and development of their regular business, but this contest, which had to be taken over by Artemis Black from Sally, must have been an extra burden with a low priority, after the changeover.

And therein lies my problem; it's Hasslefree as an entity which has committed itself to this contest, and it should have either taken the contest to its full conclusion within a reasonable timeframe, or have admitted that this was no longer feasible, and have found a way to stop the contest in a decent way, no matter who's been in control of the process.

Dragging it along for two years, you have to admit, is not pleasant for anyone involved. Not for Hasslefree, as they constantly have the huge workload and costs of the contest hanging over their heads, and not for the contestants, who have had to be patient for years now. I think a delay of several month, whatever the cause, would have been acceptable and even to be expected, but not two years...
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: Coenus July 27, 2014, 09:30:17 PM
Another newsletter update..ish.

"There are some things that have to be finsihed up before the move, the first of which is the long-overdue sculpting competition. That's in the mouldmaking/casting phase so we are waiting to make an announcement on that."
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: beefcake July 28, 2014, 02:10:48 AM
Saying  "That's in the mouldmaking/casting phase so we are waiting to make an announcement on that" sounds like an announcement lol. Good news though that it is in the moldmaking and casting phase. :)
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: Internalclock July 28, 2014, 07:25:42 AM
Saying  "That's in the mouldmaking/casting phase so we are waiting to make an announcement on that" sounds like an announcement lol. Good news though that it is in the moldmaking and casting phase. :)
:woohoo:
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: PossumCraft July 28, 2014, 08:57:17 AM
Encouraging to hear, if even only as a snippet.

I'd assume they're holding off on an 'official' announcement until they've got a firm idea of which sculpts survived the casting and created viable molds so they can release a list of exactly what's going on, but that's just my best guess :P
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: beefcake July 28, 2014, 09:08:15 AM
Yep, I'd have to agree with that. I don't have high hopes for mine. Oh well it was fun anyway.
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: alrith72 September 06, 2014, 09:10:58 AM
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r279/alrith72/tumbleweed.gif) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/alrith72/media/tumbleweed.gif.html)
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: beefcake September 06, 2014, 09:30:02 AM
 :lmao
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: PossumCraft September 06, 2014, 09:46:23 AM
yeah...
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: Inso September 07, 2014, 10:55:42 AM
I wrote this off ages ago :)... I'm impressed at the tenacity still going on :D!

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: alrith72 September 07, 2014, 01:45:46 PM
I'll happily write it off when I get my crappy sculpt back....
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: No Head Ned September 07, 2014, 04:39:22 PM
I wrote this off ages ago :)... I'm impressed at the tenacity still going on :D!
Remember, this is the same crowd of people who are still sulking because Firefly got cancelled. :whistle:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus September 07, 2014, 10:02:54 PM
Something at the end of the newsletter again...
We're heading over to our casters this coming week to check up on the sculpting contest moulds so will report back on their progress later in the week.
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: Mr Teufel September 08, 2014, 12:08:47 AM
Good to hear it's not forgotten.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 08, 2014, 07:34:16 AM
isnt that the same thing thats been at the end of the newsletter twice already?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: daeothar September 08, 2014, 09:37:55 AM
isnt that the same thing thats been at the end of the newsletter twice already?
Yup... *Sigh*  :hmmm
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: Artemis Black September 13, 2014, 11:22:37 PM
Hi Guys

This post will be in two parts, a short sum up and then a longer part with details and explanations of the first part, so you can safely skip that part if everything you wanted is in the first bit :)

First Part. I'm sorry. The lack of information here is completely and utterly my fault. It wasn't fair to the people who took the time to enter the competition and I can assure you my apology is heartfelt. However, it was (mostly) just a lack of information, we hadn't ever forgotten it, it got pushed back for various reasons but was always going to be resolved and each time there was an update in the newsletter that's actually what we did.
The current status of it is that everything that could be cast has been cast. That's the good news. The bad news is twofold a) lots of stuff simply couldn't be cast (I think maybe a third was rejected straight out) and b) some of the stuff that was cast didn't make it through intact and some of 'that' didn't end up with a good mould either.
This coming week all participants will be emailed by Jenn. That email will include the info about your own entry, what you will be receiving as a reward for entering and a code that you can use to order anything else either from the contest or in general. Over the next 2-3 weeks this will be completely resolved and you should all have received your entries back along with the rewards for entering :)

Right, the long part.

First, the apology. It's is real, but it does come with some future conversations attached. I am guilty of sometimes forgetting the FoD exists. There'll be a longer conversation about that soon in a thread of it's own so please don't reply to this bit right now :) It means I sometimes miss it when someone asks a question on a thread like this (If I miss the first notification then I don't get any more). The move has also eaten up way more of my time than you'd think, we've been back and fore to Wales numerous times, meetings with banks and accountants and lease agents etc.

As for the time taken itself, the simple fact is that the contest as designed was inherently flawed in that it couldn't easily take into account the snowballing of entries. We had to work around this. The number of entries meant the number of moulds needed to sort things was higher and the gap needed to fix those moulds into our moulding schedule was bigger. We never found that gap. We've been gearing up for the premises move for quite some time as it will be reasonably expensive and whenever a gap looked like it would appear something else came along, Salute, The Trip to the States etc. Things we had to handle to make sure business stayed even more strong than usual to enable this current premises move to happen. To coin a cliche, it wasn't personal, it was business. Instead what we did was, in a simplistic manner, save up little gaps and use them all together this past 2 months.

Right, as for the minis themselves. The ones that didn't get moulded, mostly, had 2 things in common. The first was that they had parts of the mini on the wrong plane e.g a gun facing straight forward. These simply can't go into a mould as they would never come out. The second was that the green stuff, or other putties/clays, weren't adhered to the armature well enough e.g. gaps down behind boots or under clothing etc. again, that would just tear out the mould when you pulled the first one.
The ones that were moulded also had a few issues like that, but mostly survived casting. What we did find was a fair amount of them came back with mould lines as parts had been squashed during the moulding process (maybe there was some air under the green stuff or the putty uses didn't hold up to standard casting). For these freebies going to you gus there's not much we can do about that I'm afraid. There 'will' be some clean up necessary.
Some of the minis we will clean up some copies of ouselves and make production moulds and add them to our website, in a similar way to the 'Dress a Kevs'. They may not be all the winners as it will depend on what survived the mould and how and a few other things. We'll inform the entrants of the ones that get made shopworthy in person.

I think that's everything, if I remember other things (or you remind me with questions) I shall be checking this regularly to make sure that the contest is wrapped up in a timely manner.

Lastly, I thought, some of you especially, would like to see this...

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2dwdyli.jpg)
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: Ironhammer September 13, 2014, 11:55:20 PM
Woohoo!!!!  AWESOME!!!  Thanks so much for all your efforts in pulling all this together!!! :boing: :applause:
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: beefcake September 14, 2014, 05:17:39 AM
Thanks artemis for the notification. Glad to see one of mine survived the process. :) been looking around for a suitable medusa model for ages, now I can have my own one :D
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: PossumCraft September 14, 2014, 07:17:28 AM
Thanks for the update mr Black, good to see it's still ticking over :)

Also nice to see some of my favourite entries in the pic above ^.^
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: Grulgor September 15, 2014, 10:39:26 AM
Awesome glad to see stuff has moved along, really learnt a lot from the competition even if it's a bit late to have learnt it (I can see why mine probably wasn't castable now). Been meaning to get an order in too as there's a few bits I've been meaning to get, and I know for sure the other half has been wanting 'Fairies wear boots' for a while now.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 15, 2014, 03:58:16 PM
To be fair to some of the minis that coul;dn't get sculpted it wasn't that they couldn't full stop, it was that the couldn't without being 'fixed' in some way. Unfortunately building onto a solid armature makes that considerably more difficult (when you need to cut an arm off or something) and also if the green stuff/other putty didn't look incredibly stable then it woudl have fallen apart during the attempt anyway.

A lot of the greens came back with half the green stuff fallen off. Or parts broken etc. Hopefully those minis got decent moulds so the metal will make up for it. There's still a fair few to go through and sort, Jenn is on it! :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 15, 2014, 04:24:53 PM
guess thats the problem with asking a bunch of people with no experience of sculpting for casting to sculpt for casting :P
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus September 15, 2014, 06:27:34 PM
guess thats the problem with asking a bunch of people with no experience of sculpting for casting to sculpt for casting :P
You may be on to something there...  :paranoid2:



Thanks for the update by the way, it's very much appreciated.  :thumbup:
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: Internalclock September 16, 2014, 07:45:31 AM
 :applause:
Cool, I eagerly await my email :)
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: daeothar September 16, 2014, 09:21:28 AM
Wonderful news and I'm very glad to learn that progress has been made!

Artemis; thank you for the long overdue update and explanation; it's much appreciated. I certainly understand the underlying reasons for the long delay and you have my sympathies regarding the workload; I can certainly relate to that ;-)

It's a shame to learn that not all sculpts were viable for casting, but that was, of course, to be expected. Fingers crossed that mine was good enough, but I won't be holding my breath. I can't even remember anymore if I actually washed the base mini before I started sculpting. If not, that's a lesson learned for sure...

I'll be awaiting the next update and/or email with much anticipation! :-)
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: Artemis Black September 16, 2014, 02:58:25 PM
Wonderful news and I'm very glad to learn that progress has been made!

Artemis; thank you for the long overdue update and explanation; it's much appreciated. I certainly understand the underlying reasons for the long delay and you have my sympathies regarding the workload; I can certainly relate to that ;-)

It's a shame to learn that not all sculpts were viable for casting, but that was, of course, to be expected. Fingers crossed that mine was good enough, but I won't be holding my breath. I can't even remember anymore if I actually washed the base mini before I started sculpting. If not, that's a lesson learned for sure...

I'll be awaiting the next update and/or email with much anticipation! :-)

I believe yours made it through casting :)
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: daeothar September 17, 2014, 02:06:07 PM
Yay!  :lalala:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin September 20, 2014, 09:25:33 PM
Just wondering what news of this now?  We've had a week from the casting announcement, and were told wed be getting further news in that time,  I've received no further news, good or bad.
curious minds wish to know.
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: Artemis Black September 20, 2014, 11:04:52 PM
Just wondering what news of this now?  We've had a week from the casting announcement, and were told wed be getting further news in that time,  I've received no further news, good or bad.
curious minds wish to know.

We're cutting it fine but by end of day tomorrow is the end of the week and we're hoping everyone will have received their email by then :)  We're working the weekend so check your inboxes tomorrow, as you should be anyway cos it's newsletter day ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 21, 2014, 10:47:10 PM
If anyone hasn't received an e-mail from Jenn, please let us know at pictures@hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk.

We'll sort out better photos of the 'HF Choices' tomorrow :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 22, 2014, 07:06:27 AM
Got an email.

"(This is particularly recommended if you entered from a country with a particularly dubious postal service :) )"
That includes the UK then. A pox on Royal Fail.


To clarify, everyone is getting a set of the winners, runners up and HF's choices, then anyone who had any of their entries successfully cast also gets a copy of their own castings, is that correct?

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus September 22, 2014, 07:22:54 AM
From the email: "Your entry, (or at least 1 of your entries, if you entered more than one), was cast successfully"
 :woohoo:  :woohoo:

Quite an excellent way to start the week with that news!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake September 22, 2014, 07:59:27 AM
Got that as well, pretty happy about it :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: daeothar September 22, 2014, 08:13:28 AM
I'm really curious about the HF-Choices. Artemis states that they'll post 'better pictures of those tomorrow', but I didn't see any pics to begin with.

Unless the latest picture posted on here are the Choices, and I'm a doofus for actually assuming those were the winners... :whah?:
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: Inso September 22, 2014, 01:11:00 PM
I read some of the messages here and can't decide whether people haven't noticed that there is a big move going on or are ignoring the fact.

I have an idea, lets all keep asking questions all the time so that they have to be answered... that way Artemis and Co. can stop what they are doing and answer them instead of finishing off the move and actually getting to a point where they have firm information to dish out.

Cut the people some slack. Let them breathe and sort things out. It's been two years... a few more weeks isn't a big thing in the scheme of things.

I am as keen as the rest of you to see my miniature in metal but sheesh... give them the space to get things sorted, can't you :) ?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Ben Brownlie September 22, 2014, 01:47:00 PM
Nah, bugger that. Give Arty as hard a time as possible (I like fireworks)  :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 22, 2014, 02:04:11 PM
I get that you're supposed to be on the defense for the companies here but that doesn't mean you ought to be on the offensive toward the people actually visiting the forum.

As you said, it's been two years. I'd forgive people if they've run out of patience in that time, and I'd point out Artemis also said this comp would be wrapped up before the move. I would therefore think now is the right time for people to be asking questions.

I'm not saying we should all be bombarding them with unnecessary questions but we also shouldn't be getting our heads bitten off for asking simple and relevant ones.

Just my observation.
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: leadhead September 22, 2014, 03:39:08 PM
I did not find anything offensive in Inso's post. :shrug: 
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 22, 2014, 04:17:02 PM
@ possumcraft - I am not on the offensive, merely making an observation that there is a bit of nagging going on. If people actually looked behind the scenes at the current situation with Hasslfree Miniatures, they would possibly realise that there is a lot going on... and things will happen at their own pace. A move isn't straight forward and there will always be extra little things that crop up to take away any spare time you thought you had. Artemis has got further forward in the last couple of months than anyone else over the last two years so isn't 'he's on the case' good enough? And how would you feel, if you were trying your best and people kept on at you saying "is it done yet?" "is it done yet?" "is it done yet?" "is it done yet?" "is it done yet?"... etc...

On the other hand, I have got far too much 'reality' going on at the moment to attach the merest hint of importance to 'toy soldiers' so... if you really are so upset that not having your toy soldier sorted out and sat in front of you, feel free to carry on asking questions and slowing the process down... after all, I'm just a punter like you, who also has a sculpt waiting to be cast, and am not affiliated to the company in any way so you can ignore what I am saying if you want to or you can let the process take its course and wait quietly.

And I haven't bitten your heads off. If I had, I'd have swallowed them by now.

In the words of Take That... have a little patience.

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 22, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
One of my favourite things about the internet is that when things are utterly unimportant to me I don't have to go to forums about them.

I'm sorry if I mistook your post earlier. I took it as I read it. Perhaps it's merely different view points but, with so much going, it's going to so much easier for things to slip through the cracks. Artemis said himself that if we ask questions it may remind him of things he's missed.

There has been a lot going on at hasslefree constantly. They're a small company with a large fan base, of course there's always a lot going on. The problem from our end is that if nobody asks any questions or talks to them because there's a lot going on then nobody would ask anything ever.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 22, 2014, 06:10:02 PM
I'm really curious about the HF-Choices. Artemis states that they'll post 'better pictures of those tomorrow', but I didn't see any pics to begin with.

Unless the latest picture posted on here are the Choices, and I'm a doofus for actually assuming those were the winners... :whah?:

The last pic was a pic of the primary master mould. It contained the 6 'winners' i.e. 1st and 2nd for each of the 3 categories and then a number of 'HF Choices' to fill that mould. So if you spot yours in that slightly rubbish pic above then you'll be happy when we show better pics :)

And a quick note about mould lines etc. One of the things that people don't realise is that regularly metal masters are actually sharper quality than normal production metals 'but' do have a higher likelihood of mould line issues. This tends to occur because master moulds are made of a different rubber and they always contain non-matching minis. So, for example, the bulk of the Medusa figure's bottom half would have a detrimental effect on the 2 minis either side of it as the mould struggles more to close properly. This is the main reason why clean up will be necessary on these as they are all very mixed master moulds being spun.

We 'will' be taking some masters and cleaning them up ourselves and making another Sculpting contest category in the webstore but that will take a little while and we haven't yet made the decisions on what it will contain.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 22, 2014, 07:35:53 PM
@Possumcraft - 'At the moment'.

My work is important to me but I tend to be realistic about things. I know Artemis is on the case and has made lots of progress over the last couple of months... so I have no need to continually ask questions because I know he's on the case and it will be done when the schedule allows it (that doesn't just mean the HF schedule, it also means the caster's). Sometimes, there are delays which are unavoidable. As a result, I give a little more leeway to deadlines, especially on something like this competition.

Like I said, I'm just a punter so my opinion can be easily ignored. Carry on asking questions :).




: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Grulgor September 23, 2014, 01:20:41 AM
Well that's an order put in to combine with the casts, hopefully my rambling message in the 'comments' box will mark out which ones mine and go some way to making the competition a little less of a financial burden, wish I could afford to have popped more in to be honest. Still at least now I can get to work on that 'gentleman's club' I wanted to do for the Infinity board that should arrive this month.  :woohoo:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 23, 2014, 08:42:16 AM
Order made! Couldnt for the life of me find the etched brass tools though ; ; sad times.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Ben Brownlie September 23, 2014, 10:59:33 AM
I did not find anything offensive in Inso's post. :shrug:

He's losing his touch...  :(
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 23, 2014, 12:19:53 PM
I did not find anything offensive in Inso's post. :shrug:

He's losing his touch...  :(

Maybe I'm mellowing :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus September 23, 2014, 12:36:23 PM
As the email stated that 'If you were interested in obtaining a casting of any entries that are not winners then please also let us know and we can see if we have castings of those available', I was wondering if the following model was available for purchase:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/27991_496504570381825_1947863_n.jpg?oh=31d69760758e99fd4dc8842c37e5a9f1&oe=54CDEF32&__gda__=1422165859_22a5e6a8fb6814865f9290ac1506e5f7)

Would love to paint it up for somebody who absolutely abhors bagpipes (can you believe it? such a lovely, delicate sound...).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Bioptic September 23, 2014, 05:13:27 PM
Yes, I would also be potentially interested in some of the non-winners! Is there simply a list of which ended up being castable and can have extras made, or do we need to query on a case by case basis?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 23, 2014, 06:24:53 PM
I reckon there will be a list once all of the possible candidates have been cast, quality assessed and ticked off as viable. Seeing as the casting is in process, I doubt if there is a definitive list just yet... but I am sure there will be one at some point (usually, the good ones end up in the HF shop anyway).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 23, 2014, 07:21:58 PM
We're still working on it but as mentioned somewhere above, about 1/3rd were rejected for casting straight off. That still left about 60 to go by the casters though and then some more were rejected.

We'll sort out the list for you once we're down sorting out some better photos of the winners mould :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 23, 2014, 11:27:49 PM
I'll upload photos tomorrow but for the moment we believe this is the list of those which were cast....

(unnamed pigtales)
Kiri, Scout Sniper
(unnamed gunner)
Hannibelle
Lydia, Lizard Queen
Medusa
Wonder Girl
Jezzail
Admiral Forbes
Bridget
Sarah
(unnamed hair)
(unnamed 01 gunner)
Griselda the Stern
(unnamed 02 non-combatant)
Mel
(unnamed 60s)
(unnamed cloak)
Cyberbelle Suzi
Kumi
Blackpowder Valiant
Nurse Sylvia
Whisper
Oberon's Sister
Zombie
(unnamed 05 nun)
Man Hunter
Unit 013
Hikari Hoshi
Ther'ule
Linnessa, Felinid Pirate
Elemental
Onesie
Roberta
Scream
Marrachino
Gina Steampunk
Annabelle
Gang Girl
Sorceress
Beatrix Cutter
(unnamed wings)
Elizabeth/Hannah
Brynhildr
Majesty
Loretta Blaze
(unnamed 10 short dress)
Ruby
(unnamed 12 hands up)

... this doesn't necessarily mean the mini made it through intact (in fact the odds are it didn't) and it also doesn't necessarily constitute a clean casting. But It is currently Jenn's list of 'we have a casting of it in metal'. More info tomorrow (and hopefully pictures!)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Internalclock September 24, 2014, 07:04:49 AM
woop woop. Can't help but be excited :P  :boing:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Gangrel September 24, 2014, 12:16:37 PM
Excellent news. Thanks to all for the sterling work on this. 
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso September 26, 2014, 05:40:56 PM
Order placed :).

It is going to be an exciting wait now to see just how Ther'ule looks in the metal :).
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 27, 2014, 07:48:29 PM

A full set has been cleaned up and glued etc. Final photos will appear in tomorrow's newsletter and I'll also post them here separately.

A couple of the winners may not make the website I'm afraid. One was unfinished and so may not make the website at all (although we may sprue up the separate gun) and a second just didn't mould correctly so needs to be slightly amended before we can add it to the webstore.

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft September 27, 2014, 08:15:16 PM
if all but a couple of the winning models made it through casting that's pretty impressive :D
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 27, 2014, 08:45:59 PM
if all but a couple of the winning models made it through casting that's pretty impressive :D

The original greens, not so much, but for most of the winners we got useable castings, albeit some of them require more clean up than we'd normally allow through QC.

So we have 11 minis in the 'winners mould' , we may not have 11 in the store. We shall see :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Ironhammer September 28, 2014, 12:18:43 AM
A couple of the winners may not make the website I'm afraid. One was unfinished and so may not make the website at all (although we may sprue up the separate gun)

If that's the one I'm thinking of, it's not so much that it was unfinished as I decided that I didn't want to cut it up in the end.  I figured it wouldn't really work very well, not with the way I had posed her, and I was sufficiently happy with my work that I didn't want to rework her much.  I had already created the separate gun, though, so I threw that in as a bonus with the idea that it could be slung on her back along with (or in lieu of) the backpack.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Ironhammer September 28, 2014, 12:20:14 AM
As the email stated that 'If you were interested in obtaining a casting of any entries that are not winners then please also let us know and we can see if we have castings of those available', I was wondering if the following model was available for purchase:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/27991_496504570381825_1947863_n.jpg?oh=31d69760758e99fd4dc8842c37e5a9f1&oe=54CDEF32&__gda__=1422165859_22a5e6a8fb6814865f9290ac1506e5f7)

Would love to paint it up for somebody who absolutely abhors bagpipes (can you believe it? such a lovely, delicate sound...).

Thanks for the kind compliments!  I have an idea, though, that the figure proved too delicate to cast, and would either have been rejected or destroyed in the attempt.  Those arms were pretty fragile, as I recall.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 28, 2014, 09:30:36 PM
Today was kinda taken over by the website problem, photos pushed until tomorrow sorry!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Coenus September 30, 2014, 09:33:22 AM
Thanks for the kind compliments!  I have an idea, though, that the figure proved too delicate to cast, and would either have been rejected or destroyed in the attempt.  Those arms were pretty fragile, as I recall.
You're welcome; I may well have voted for this one as well, though I honestly can't remember..!



With the pics delayed, could the code deadline please be extended for a few days?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: drakkol September 30, 2014, 10:15:02 AM
With the pics delayed, could the code deadline please be extended for a few days?

Yep, please...
I've had the possibility to read HFmail only today. I've tryed to look here(and in HF's website) for pics to place an order but...
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: beefcake September 30, 2014, 11:19:52 AM
I just placed an order for some chaotic dwarfs. One more ticked off the list. :)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Sigur September 30, 2014, 01:22:43 PM
I have to say that I was surprised when I got the e-mail a few days ago. :) Now I'm very excited though of course.

My entry was deemed uncastable right from the pictures due to me being a n00f and using plasticard and whatnot on my model. So I didn't even have to send it in to begin with. Now my question - should I send my delivery adress in again seperately or just put it in the little extra info box with my next purchase? Anybody in the same situation?

cheers
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin September 30, 2014, 08:01:02 PM
im in a quandary here id like to make an order,   but not knowing which minis are cast, I don't want to get some or the regular HF releases, and the cast ones that are coming out as standard, without a chance to add the others from the comp ( that ill know ill want).
any further news on the photos please?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 30, 2014, 08:36:40 PM

Hey guys, yes, due to the outages and the subsequent delays etc. we have extended the code so no need to worry about rushing etc.

All winners minie have been glued and cleaned up etc, just need to take new photos. And I'll be linking the original contest photos for everythign else that got moulded too, so expect a giant post filled with a gazillion images soon :)

(Thanksfully the delays have simply been that due to the outage falling over a payday weekend the last 24hrs have been a hectic order day, plus we just released a very sought after resin master which has extended the busy period)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black September 30, 2014, 08:40:59 PM
Oh and we have held the currently made orders just in case anyone wants to add any of the other minis so we'd better get a move on anyway otherwise those guys will be annoyed ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Steel Penguin September 30, 2014, 09:48:46 PM
thanks for the fast response on that  :smile:
And its not the code that's the problem ..  honest  its just wanting that big pile of lead in one go! :woohoo:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: drakkol October 01, 2014, 03:20:49 PM
Thanks Artemis,I'll place an order after having seen your post with pics  :angel:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 02, 2014, 10:45:04 PM
Right guys, all the winners mould have been inked ready for photography but Jenn isn't feeling well so we're going home. However we have put together the original contest photos for all of the minis which were cast. Remember everyone is getting a full set of the winners mould already so unless you want to buy more of 1 of those, these are the important pics for now :)
(If you do want to buy more than 1 of anythign in the winners mould then you should also let Jenn know)

All additional minis are 3 each (Low price as the code can't be used for them)  and we'll have to issue a Paypal invoice manually for any additions to your orders so the procedure is, in bold...

Make your order through the site, using the code you were sent. Let us know in the comments box that you have also sent an email to Jenn. Send Jenn an email letting her know which of the below minis you would like one or more of. We will invoice you seperately at 3 per casting, for anything you want

If you've already ordered and don't want any of the below then Jen will be emailing you tomorrow morning to check, just reply with ano and your order will go out as is.

The photos below should be in the order of the list a few posts up....

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/01unnamedpigtales.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/01KiriScoutSniper.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/02unnamedgunner.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/02Hannibelle.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/02LydiaLizardQueen.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/04Jezzail.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/05AdmiralForbes.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/05Sarah.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/06unnamedhair.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/07unnamed01gunner.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/08unnamed02noncombatant.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/08Mel.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/09unnamed60s.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/09unnamedcloak.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/10Kumi.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/11BlackpowderValiant.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/11NurseSylvia.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/13OberonsSister.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/13Zombie.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/14unnamed05nun.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/14ManHunter.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/14Unit013.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/15HikariHoshi.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/16LinnessaFelinidPirate.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/17Elemental.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/17Onesie.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/18Roberta.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/20Marrachino.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/22Annabelle.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/22GangGirl.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/24Sorceress.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/25BeatrixCutter.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/27unnamedwings.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/28Brynhildr.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/29LorettaBlaze.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/32unnamed10shortdress.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/34Ruby.jpg)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/uploads/36unnamed12handsup.jpg)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 03, 2014, 07:25:36 AM
No Ther'ule?:

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 03, 2014, 08:05:04 AM
Wasn't she one of the winners Inso? Unless I'm mistaken, the photos are to show all the non-winners that were cast.

At this point I really don't have the faintest memory of who actually won though >.<
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Ironhammer October 03, 2014, 09:15:23 AM
I believe that is correct.  The winners are on page 28 of this thread, and none of them are among these, nor are the HF Choice minis shown with the first castings on page 31 of the thread.

I guess my little fan dancer didn't get cast.  I was really hoping that one would make it, it was simple, but I was very fond of it.  Just curious, what was the cause?  I thought I had gotten all the parts in a good enough plane for casting.  Did the putty not hold up?


: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 03, 2014, 10:17:59 AM
Two things;

I noticed Ther'ule in the picture of the cast minis, so she definitely got cast.

And... unless I'm blind there isn't any list of the HF choices anywhere?
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 03, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
I don't think she was a winner... but then it was a long time ago and I have trouble remembering what day it is, let alone something from 2 years ago :D!
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 03, 2014, 12:35:09 PM
*grin* Jenn totally told me this would happen when I posted and I overruled her, So when you read this Jenn, you were totally right! :D

"The'rule" is in the 'winners mould' Inso. That's what the earlier photo with the black background was. Everyone is getting that set of 11 minis. I think I may need to start this announcement stuff again as I obviously wasn't clear  enough on just how generous we were being to people ;)

Give us a few hours and I can clear it up using the new pics of the winners mould in a brand new thread with a shiny new, all in one place, announcement.
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 03, 2014, 12:54:18 PM
Aaaaand now I think I understand. The photo on page 31 shows the winners and HF choices which is what they're planning to send everyone. That includes Ther'ule.

The ones shown above are the ones that weren't winner or HF choice but were cast successfully. They can be bought separately.

I think that's it....
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 03, 2014, 01:48:23 PM
Aaaaand now I think I understand. The photo on page 31 shows the winners and HF choices which is what they're planning to send everyone. That includes Ther'ule.

The ones shown above are the ones that weren't winner or HF choice but were cast successfully. They can be bought separately.

I think that's it....

That is it, the exact thing I scoffed at Jenn about people not understanding because I'd been soooo clear. I hate you all. ;)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: daeothar October 03, 2014, 03:40:14 PM
Well you know; no battleplan survives contact with the internet...  :lmao:
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Inso October 03, 2014, 08:19:48 PM
I did go back and re-read things and it was there... but a bit buried...  :oops:

: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 03, 2014, 10:26:54 PM
Code only works once (All our codes do), I have refunded the savings to anyone who's ordered twice.

(Also our codes get entered on the final page where you confirm things, almost everyone writes it in the comments box first :) )
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: PossumCraft October 04, 2014, 07:07:10 AM
Was the email asking if we wanted to buy any addition contest mini's delayed? Haven't received one (I placed an order last week)
: Re: 2012 SCULPTING COMPETITION
: Artemis Black October 04, 2014, 04:25:30 PM
NEW THREAD ALERT!

http://forum-of-doom.com/index.php?topic=17398.0