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: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 12, 2010, 07:23:21 PM
In no particular order, and all a bit dark as I didn't have proper lighting setup at the Dungeon...
(http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/crabmanidea_wip_12thmarch_2010_small.jpg) (http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/crabmanidea_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg)
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(http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/sirrogerII_wip_12thmarch_2010_small.jpg) (http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/sirrogerII_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg)
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(http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/sniper_wip_12thmarch_2010_small.jpg) (http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/sniper_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg)
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(http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/maletrooper_wip_12thmarch_2010_small.jpg) (http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/maletrooper_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg)
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(http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/maletrooper_altbaredhead_wip_12thmarch_2010_small.jpg) (http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/maletrooper_altbaredhead_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg)
http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/maletrooper_altbaredhead_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg

(http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/maletrooper_altheads1_wip_12thmarch_2010_small.jpg) (http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/maletrooper_altheads1_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg)
http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/maletrooper_altheads1_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg

(http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/femaletrooper1_wip_12thmarch_2010_small.jpg) (http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/femaletrooper1_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg)
http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/femaletrooper1_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg

Thoughts welcome.
: Re: Some WIPs fopr you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Custom_Hobby March 12, 2010, 07:25:44 PM
You've been busy Andy. Nice work all around! :applause:
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: Pockets March 12, 2010, 07:33:14 PM

 Darn tootin'!

 I love them...

 The sniper pic seems to be a bit small and the wo-man isn't displaying for me

 Love 'em!

 Soon your bald gangers will need a reliable 'requisitions' officer...called Pockets  :wink:
: Re: Some WIPs fopr you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: gi6ers March 12, 2010, 07:35:49 PM
Crabman is the nuts, perhaps shorter legs?  Sir Roger is great too, I think I'd leave the sheild off as it hides the figure (obviously) and use it as scenery, is it only available with the Dragson?  Both of these make me want to paint immediately.  Your sculpting just keeps leaping up a notch!!

(Nothing wrong with the sci-fi stuff I'm just not a sci-fi troop buyer so won't comment)
: Re: Some WIPs fopr you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 12, 2010, 07:40:04 PM
@Pockets: Should work now!

Gi6ers:Crabby needs multi-legs in my opinion. His body is too crab like for bipedal to really gel. You probably can't see it from that pic, but he's also massive, it's a 40mm base he's on. I got a bit depressed cos he's not going in a way that feels right...yet.

Sir Roger may be available separately, not sure yet. Depends how the other 'paladin' goes.
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: Lorbaat March 12, 2010, 07:46:17 PM
I love the direction the sci-fi troops are taking.  I am already hoping to see a bigger range of poses, I can definitely use them.

The crab man reminds me of the Mirelurks from Fallout 3 (in that they are bipedal crab men).  Which is a good thing, I mean... I like Fallout.
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: Pockets March 12, 2010, 07:47:40 PM

 Loving Wesley!

 Crabby is the dogs danglies...may I suggest leaving him so he could be sci fi or fantasy?
: Re: Some WIPs fopr you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 12, 2010, 07:49:31 PM
There will be plenty more poses for the troopers, I just got to get a decent amount of dull ones in first so that people can build armies that aren't entirely all pointing, waving, hollering or dragging their wounded buddies to safety (Yes, there will be one set of those)

Crabby if/when he gets finished, won't have any guns. He's like a carnifex, all crushing and smashing and smelling of rotting fish.

"Zoidberg Away! Woop-woop-woop-woop..."
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: gi6ers March 12, 2010, 07:59:11 PM
I reckon if you shorten the legs and add another set it'll look great, what about rotating the knee joins so the knees face more sidewards or so you have a knee at each corners (hope that makes sense)  The manipulator limbs look a bit too large IMO, I'd prefer a small set or 2 for cramming bits of human into his mouthparts  :D  It'll also look a lot cooler with the assymetrical second pincer...

rrar! (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iq2vQY1Jeaw/SG0EanZUDQI/AAAAAAAAFlc/25Z52VM3Dbk/s400/crab1.jpg)
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: wellender March 12, 2010, 08:08:07 PM
I love the direction the sci-fi troops are taking.  I am already hoping to see a bigger range of poses, I can definitely use them.

The crab man reminds me of the Mirelurks from Fallout 3 (in that they are bipedal crab men).  Which is a good thing, I mean... I like Fallout.

Mirelurks are a great idea for inspiration for a crabman.

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/06/Mirelurk.png)
: Re: Some WIPs fopr you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: The Commissar March 12, 2010, 08:16:29 PM
Thanks for posting the pictures  :thumbup:

I am the opposite to Gi6ers as Sci-Fi is my "bag"

I also like the way troopers are going -

Favourite helmet is the male trooper right hand bottom picture - my guess would be that this is the one that you said had a samurai vibe. The left hand one is a bit too much like other Sci-Fi figures (Copplestone particularly I think), the skull mask does not do much for me personally. I know some like bareheaded troops but it always strikes me as a bit odd that a chap (or chapess) gets all armoured up but then does not bother with a helmet! I think that the "samurai" helmet would give your troops a unique look - having said that I prefer the goggles look of the left hand chap to the visor of the right hand one.

Female trooper looks good as well - is it your intention to make the armour/uniform pretty much the same as the bloke?

Really looking forward to seeing these progress.

Sniper looks nice as well - should work well with the sentry figure.



: Re: Some WIPs fopr you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: gi6ers March 12, 2010, 08:24:51 PM
I am the opposite to Gi6ers as Sci-Fi is my "bag"

It's funny, love to read it, can't paint it well.
: Re: Some WIPs fopr you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: DanG March 12, 2010, 08:29:15 PM
Very nice.  I likee.  I likee a lot and want to see a shed load more of the Troopers.  And if you can base a squad around the Colonial Marines model I would be very, very happy  (2 heavy machine gun types, 2 flamers/alt. heavy, 1 sarge, 1 medic, 4 assorted troopers/specialists)

But yeah, those are going to get painted up as either Militech or Arasaka corporate military types...
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: greenstuff_gav March 12, 2010, 08:48:56 PM
... i just spent the afternoon converting trenchcoaters with sniper rifles  :blub:
any ETA on him? :D
plus can we get a sprue of those sniper rifles? pretty please? its fantastic  :notworthy:

also, huzzah! Mirelurks! :D
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: DRAGON March 12, 2010, 09:02:52 PM
oooooooh !  8) :thumbup:
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: t-tauri March 12, 2010, 09:40:11 PM
Like the ganger and the troopers.

Crabby looks odd. The legs are far too spindly to hold that body. The legs could do with being thicker I think.
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: Dentatus March 12, 2010, 10:24:45 PM
I predict more of my USD coming your way soon. Very nice.
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: agentmolar March 12, 2010, 10:54:37 PM
Looking great Andy! Cant wait to get them.
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: caerban March 12, 2010, 11:01:36 PM
Speaking as a marine biologist there's no such thing as too crabby :)
I think he's brilliant but concur his legs need a little work though. He's on my "to get" as of now. The others I like but am not too bothered with getting not being a particularly sci-fi type of guy (mini wise at least).
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 12, 2010, 11:07:31 PM
Crabby looks odd. The legs are far too spindly to hold that body. The legs could do with being thicker I think.

Yes. It's a WIP. Those are literally a couple of bits of wire in the right shape with some putty on, nothing like the final piece might necessarily be. Only the body and the large claw are anything like the final thing would probably appear! It's essentially a sketch in putty, trying out some ideas, that sort of thing.
@Gav Apologies! Although if you followed me on Twitter you'd have known about the sniper a couple of weeks ago ;)

Thanks for all the comments, guys. If it's of any interest to anyone I'm picturing these painted in some camo scheme but maybe with dark green or grey chipped armour plating, trying to balance out the generic sci-fi-ness  with some plausible modern roots. (In my head these are Britidsh troops of some sort, I've put little squares on the helmet to be painted as ID flags for the country federation or dictatorship of your choice - or easily filed off if you prefer.) The gun is hopefully something that might well be used in the next 100 years or so, but with better materials in the construction and different ammo etc. to todays guns. The helmets would contain HUD and comms, full computer and stuff, it being the future tech would be very small and thus more portable. Backpack would contain Compressed Molecule equipment such as tents/sleeping bags, waterproof or chem kit, able to be expanded at the flick of a switch. If I'm really lucky then one of you talented buggers will paint the visors with little targeting visuals faintly visible or something...
I'm calling the rifle (The one blu-tacked to the female trooper's breastplate is a narrower, underslung-grenade-launcher-less version of the same rifle held by the male trooper, which has proved to be too wide and bolter like to do any decently half-realistic poses with. Much to my disgust and annoyance, I put a lot of effort into the first one. Curses! I had hoped it would be reduced in width a lot more by two mouldings. It wasn't.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 12, 2010, 11:11:24 PM
Crabby - I had in my head a vaguely more human looking thing. But it got crabbier as I went on. No law saying I can't have different types of Crabmen (although Crab is a misnomer, sort of generally-weird-Crustacean would be more fitting)though, so I'll persevere with it in this vein rather than throw it away and start another one just yet.
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: Bungle March 12, 2010, 11:37:11 PM
Liking these a lot Andy.

You need a ganger guy firing a pintle mounted heavy weapon.

Sort of support weapon, or vehicle mounted......
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: The Commissar March 13, 2010, 12:04:16 AM
Speaking for myself I always find the sculptor's thinking  very interesting  :smile: and I like the idea of flying the flag as well.

I kept comparing the guns in the different pictures and had come to the conclusion they were the same so could not understand why I preferred the one in the picture of the female!
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: Penfold March 13, 2010, 12:07:27 AM
 :applause: like these a lot a must for the to get list
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: Lorbaat March 13, 2010, 12:24:20 AM
Of course, I would also enjoy a miniature of Darnell "Crabman" Turner.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lmTxMsKsueE/R1sl3hFHFHI/AAAAAAAAASo/Lzb542959OY/s400/crabman.jpg)
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: Mr Teufel March 13, 2010, 01:31:55 AM
Gorgeous sculpts, mate!
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: Dewbakuk March 13, 2010, 01:56:37 AM
Excelent sculpts. I'm very much a fan of 'generic' sci-fi troops.

Crabby makes me think of Garthim

(http://www.grayclouds.net/adam/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/garthim_2.JPG)
(http://www.lauraknauth.com/MovieCollectibles/Marv_Garthim.JPG)
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: RogerB March 13, 2010, 09:24:04 AM
Of course Sir Roger is the best.  I don't know why, can't put my finger on it...hmmm.

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: dwartist March 13, 2010, 09:37:40 AM
oooh, sci-fi troopers  :lalala: I'll have lots of those!!
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: mcfonz March 13, 2010, 10:15:35 AM
... i just spent the afternoon converting trenchcoaters with sniper rifles  :blub:
any ETA on him? :D
plus can we get a sprue of those sniper rifles? pretty please? its fantastic  :notworthy:

also, huzzah! Mirelurks! :D

 :metoo:

Good stuff Andy, almost choked on my breakfast looking at their awesomeness.

The troopers are cool. I like the guns and the helmets, there is a nice not to distant future feel to them which I like.
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: jed March 13, 2010, 10:34:00 AM
those look great, really good as near-future stuff, really good.
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: Inso March 13, 2010, 11:04:23 AM
I am loving this lot :mrgreen:.

The only things that leap out are:

The bare headed sci-fi trooper - I can't tell you why but his head looks wrong.  I don't know whether it is size or position but it doesn't look right to me.

The crab man - I agree with the four legs idea.  I would also suggest that the second pair of arms should have some hands rather than be swimming legs/scythes).  It may also be an idea to have a separate head...have you seen the original war of the worlds where the tripods look like they are hovering (legs of energy)?  The squashed, broad head of those would look like what I'm trying to explain:

(http://wkbwradio.com/shoot2.jpg)

...just a lot closer to the top of the body.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 13, 2010, 11:13:51 AM
I know what you mean about the bare head. It doesn't quite work, I think it's mainly position but it's also a slightly odd looking head (a bit Peter Stormare. A little bit Jeremy Hardy!)
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: Cypher226 March 13, 2010, 02:02:49 PM
Oh hell yes, love the SF troopers. Exactly what I've been looking for to oppose my Pig Iron militia and upcoming rebels/scavengers!

The bareheaded one has a very hooked nose looking at the right hand picture?

The skull mask one looks like one of these...
(http://www.brotherprice.com/ebphoto/army%20of%202%20new%20skull%202.jpg)

(Airsoft copy of the Army of Two mask) or the wraps that Deltas/CIA Special Activities Division allegedly wear.

That said, I'd really like a head option with a shemagh/multi wrap around the face, something like this:
(http://www.ebairsoft.com/images/big/Multi%20Wrap%20ACU%201.jpg)

Like 'em all Andy, really looking forward to getting all of them.

Any chance any of this lot'll be ready for Salute?

I know it's early days, but any chance of some nice vehicles to go with the troops, Mastiff, Ridgeback or Buffalo like maybe?
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 13, 2010, 02:10:29 PM
I'm trying to get as many done by Salute as possible, but it's only a few weeks away now!
As to vehicles, yes, at some point I'll be getting some vehicles done. Remember that Tank thread from last year (or the year before, it all blurs into one for me...)?
Hooked nose is deliberate. Wanted that ugly, been punched in the face look that you don't always see on military minis form some companies.
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: Cypher226 March 13, 2010, 02:14:16 PM
: Big Boris
Hooked nose is deliberate. Wanted that ugly, been punched in the face look that you don't always see on military minis form some companies.

Ah, maybe he was the runner up in the regimental boxing championship?  :D

Seriously though, these guys look great. Love the female trooper too.



: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: mcfonz March 13, 2010, 02:15:07 PM
My god - I am going to wait until the end of April before spending much more on minis then!
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: Avicenna March 13, 2010, 02:23:50 PM
All great stuff Andy :D have you thought of having the crabman on 4 legs similar to the scythe arm? would lower his centre of gravity, and make him more bestial allowing you to do your bipedal crabmen more how you imagined them without wasting that damn fine sculpt... :D
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: Big Boris March 13, 2010, 02:58:08 PM
That's my current plan, yes...
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: ballistic_bro March 13, 2010, 03:40:16 PM
Love Wesley and the sci-fi troops - especially skull mask, crackin. :thumbup: :smile:
Not sure about crabman, maybe just not my bag. :hmmm
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: Bahir March 13, 2010, 05:55:31 PM
Wow great stuff!
 
The pally looks a little like Don Quixote to me (I live near Alcalá, the birth place of Cervantes and there are statues of Quixote everywhere).  Having said that, he looks very cool.  I wonder what he would look like as some kind of Space Paladin.

I´m going to have to purchase some of your troopers dude!  I was wanting some humans to be a part of my Grymn Mercenary force.  I was looking at getting some Plastic GW guardsmen, but yours look much cooler (and I´d rather give my € to FoD companies)  Any ETA on when they´ll be in production?
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: alien March 13, 2010, 07:48:49 PM
Great work.
I like all but the old knight is specialy interesting.  :boing:
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: DanG March 13, 2010, 08:43:38 PM
I know what you mean about the bare head. It doesn't quite work, I think it's mainly position but it's also a slightly odd looking head (a bit Peter Stormare. A little bit Jeremy Hardy!)

Well, if you dont think the bare-head is right, and you intend them as a future British Army...  You could always go with a Beret.

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: PhilH March 13, 2010, 08:46:46 PM
The soldiers have caught my eye. I will be ordering then once they are available. No problems with any of the sculpts, top drawer stuff. :thumbup:
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: goat89 March 13, 2010, 09:44:57 PM
Love the troopers!
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: otherworld March 13, 2010, 10:08:49 PM
Nice work, Andy.  I particularly like the Crabman.  If you're looking for inspiration, there's an excellent drawing of a Crabman in Necromancer Games' Tome of Horrors.  If you can't track one down, let me know and I'll send a scan.

The sci-fi troopers look great, but you won't find many soldiers who tie their boots with neat bows at the top like that! 
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: Mr Teufel March 14, 2010, 12:41:46 AM
I am loving this lot :mrgreen:.

The only things that leap out are:

The bare headed sci-fi trooper - I can't tell you why but his head looks wrong.  I don't know whether it is size or position but it doesn't look right to me.

The crab man - I agree with the four legs idea.  I would also suggest that the second pair of arms should have some hands rather than be swimming legs/scythes).  It may also be an idea to have a separate head...have you seen the original war of the worlds where the tripods look like they are hovering (legs of energy)?  The squashed, broad head of those would look like what I'm trying to explain:

[img]http://wkbwradio.com/shoot2.jpg

...just a lot closer to the top of the body.
How about two? Crabs have eyestalks.
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: Mr Teufel March 14, 2010, 12:51:27 AM
Googling "crab men":
(http://student.vfs.com/~3d64jason/crabman_comp.jpg)
(http://www.criticaloddness.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/extra.jpg)
(http://thearchnemesis.com/images/Crab%20Man.jpg)
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/f/f4/FO3_crabman_concept.jpg)
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: beefcake March 14, 2010, 02:15:18 AM
Some good reference pics there. I particularly like the 2ndpic on the right(no idea what the left is meant to be?)
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: Mr Teufel March 14, 2010, 10:28:33 AM
No clue. It was just on the same pic.
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: Inso March 14, 2010, 11:29:07 AM
I would suggest that it may be a jellyfish man.
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: grekwood March 14, 2010, 12:26:35 PM
oo liking most of these  :thumbup: although the trench coat guy and skull mask trooper don't really do much for me  :shrug:
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: clam March 14, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
I really have to find some bad excuse for buying those trenchcoat gangers - don't play any shirmish sci-fi games at all - so no idea what to use them for other than for painting  :thinks: - maybe a nice gang-deal would do the trick ;)
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: Insane_Prophet March 14, 2010, 02:03:14 PM
Of course, I would also enjoy a miniature of Darnell "Crabman" Turner.

An afro-head would be cool on more or less any Heresy Mini!

All of the above WIPs look very nice. I particularly like Roger, the Sniper and the Skull Mask varient.

Shorter legs feel like they'd work better with the Crab-Man, maybe having coming of the base at a slant? Regardless I'm sure whatever path you choose to go with him will result in an excellent model.
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: Carcharoth March 14, 2010, 03:07:43 PM
That's a great set of previews! Loving the sci-fi troopers. Can't wait to see how that range develops. :yup:
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: mcfonz March 14, 2010, 05:49:07 PM
I love the direction the sci-fi troops are taking.  I am already hoping to see a bigger range of poses, I can definitely use them.

The crab man reminds me of the Mirelurks from Fallout 3 (in that they are bipedal crab men).  Which is a good thing, I mean... I like Fallout.

Mirelurks are a great idea for inspiration for a crabman.

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/06/Mirelurk.png)

 :metoo:

Mirelurks are a good reference and are nasty little buggers, especially the bigger tougher ones and the phsycic style ones.
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: Ryan March 15, 2010, 12:49:17 PM
If the 80s taught us anything its that crabmen would look like clawful from masters of the univerce!

http://www.fourhorsemen.biz/gallery/motu/statue-clawful.htm
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: Ben Brownlie March 15, 2010, 02:06:19 PM
In at least one of the shots Sir Roger the Unlucky looks very much like Andrew Starling!

:D

Nice bunch of figs

Love the trenchcoat sniper and all of the troopers too

 :thumbup:
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: Custom_Hobby March 15, 2010, 03:53:41 PM
If the 80s taught us anything its that crabmen would look like clawful from masters of the univerce!

http://www.fourhorsemen.biz/gallery/motu/statue-clawful.htm

Took me back to my childhood with that one! :thumbup: 8)
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: King_Doberman March 15, 2010, 04:32:36 PM
I have to say I like her gun more than I like the guns on the lads.

I do think her legs are a bit thin looking.
(http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/wip/femaletrooper1_wip_12thmarch_2010.jpg)
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 15, 2010, 04:46:29 PM
Because she's a girl. And she's 28mm tall. And she's wearing armour. You tell me how to make her not look like the man (whilst wearing entirely unsexy armour) without going all Bimbo McBigboobenstein.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: mcfonz March 15, 2010, 05:10:39 PM
I like her as is, not all women have bulging thigh muscles like Angelina. I think there is a defenite femeninity about her. Would it be worth having a helmeted head without the goggles, the full face may be a bit more femenine then.

Otherwise I think she's cool. I am guessing that the weapon she has is a little different from the standard ones the other guys have?
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 15, 2010, 05:38:10 PM
Actually, her gun is going to be the standard one, it's a re-do of the male's one, which turned out to be way too thick to do any decent posing (it's the bullpup configuration that really limits what you can do with it - no one-handed ubermacho firing, for instance, it just looks daft.).
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: mcfonz March 15, 2010, 06:03:30 PM
Actually, her gun is going to be the standard one, it's a re-do of the male's one, which turned out to be way too thick to do any decent posing (it's the bullpup configuration that really limits what you can do with it - no one-handed ubermacho firing, for instance, it just looks daft.).

Her gun does look a little easier to fiddle around with or place on an alternative mini if so desired. Really liking the feel of this lot to the point that I am hanging on to starting one of my forces now because I need some head swaps!
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Ryan March 15, 2010, 09:08:00 PM
If the 80s taught us anything its that crabmen would look like clawful from masters of the univerce!

http://www.fourhorsemen.biz/gallery/motu/statue-clawful.htm

Took me back to my childhood with that one! :thumbup: 8)

and wouldnt that make u buy one Mike? or even a whole army lol
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: mcfonz March 15, 2010, 09:21:38 PM
If the 80s taught us anything its that crabmen would look like clawful from masters of the univerce!

http://www.fourhorsemen.biz/gallery/motu/statue-clawful.htm

Took me back to my childhood with that one! :thumbup: 8)

and wouldnt that make u buy one Mike? or even a whole army lol

Just followed that link and was looking at the page when something jumped out at me - have a look at that Joker, remind you of a certain ex-priminister?

It all starts making sense now . . . . .
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Catinator March 16, 2010, 04:01:49 PM
The Crabman legs look too thin to support it.

Sir Roger is great.

The Ganger with the sniper rifle is on my wish list. A crouching pose (going stealthily to position) would be my recommendation.

I like the troopers- they look very promising. Looking forward for more.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Lorbaat March 16, 2010, 04:22:10 PM
The Crabman legs look too thin to support it.

So do a real crab's, and those aren't even WiP.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: kersplat March 16, 2010, 06:08:55 PM
I will be having some of those si-fi troopers. especially love the skull mask, female gun is ace
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 16, 2010, 07:27:44 PM
Crabby looks odd. The legs are far too spindly to hold that body. The legs could do with being thicker I think.

Yes. It's a WIP. Those are literally a couple of bits of wire in the right shape with some putty on, nothing like the final piece might necessarily be. Only the body and the large claw are anything like the final thing would probably appear! It's essentially a sketch in putty, trying out some ideas, that sort of thing.

The Crabman legs look too thin to support it.

So Andy Wrote again:
Yes. It's a WIP. Those are literally a couple of bits of wire in the right shape with some putty on, nothing like the final piece might necessarily be. Only the body and the large claw are anything like the final thing would probably appear! It's essentially a sketch in putty, trying out some ideas, that sort of thing.


: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Custom_Hobby March 16, 2010, 07:30:15 PM
and wouldnt that make u buy one Mike? or even a whole army lol

Possibly :paranoid2:
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Martini Henrie March 18, 2010, 06:45:59 AM
I really like the Trenchie sniper, it's gone straight on my 'to buy' list.  I also really like the female sci fi trooper, unfortunately it's the bulpup weapon that makes me think it's going to be great.  Just a note if you do keep the bull pup design, I think the look would be more balanced if you move the trigger assy and mag well forward on the weapon by two rungs on the foregrip just to balance the weapon more  :paranoid2:

It's all looking good, apart from hearing my wallet whimper... :blink:
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 18, 2010, 08:44:38 AM
The problem with the trigger and mag, is one of scale. The position of the trigger is governed entirely by the length of arm, the butt needs to sit on the shoulder. There's only so long it can be, therefore. So the overall look of the rifle has to be conform to the dimensions of the human scale figure I use.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Mrephunk March 18, 2010, 10:41:07 PM
Because she's a girl. And she's 28mm tall. And she's wearing armour. You tell me how to make her not look like the man (whilst wearing entirely unsexy armour) without going all Bimbo McBigboobenstein.

Bimbo McBigboobenstein? Now that could be an awesome mini :wink: And definitely keep the name
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: beefcake March 19, 2010, 03:29:36 AM
It sounds like a female version of the flesh golem
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: freakinacage March 21, 2010, 11:02:09 PM
well i like whats coming up, i can;t believe i missed all this!
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: - 7eAL - March 21, 2010, 11:05:27 PM
So, Wesley snipes. I will need a few of those. Does that make him James Dial?
And can we have an alternate Wesley with a crossbow, or a Blade? :cool:
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 21, 2010, 11:09:48 PM
(http://www.heresyminiatures.com/images/trooper1_compilation_andyfoster.jpg)
Example paint job to give you an idea of what it should look like, more or less. Was going to do camoflauge scheme but decided it was a bit beyond my abilities/time limit.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 21, 2010, 11:11:14 PM
So, Wesley snipes. I will need a few of those. Does that make him James Dial?
And can we have an alternate Wesley with a crossbow, or a Blade? :cool:
Blade is something that will probably be happening soon. Well, hopefully, anyway.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Ajsalium March 21, 2010, 11:38:51 PM
One question: Is the backpack integral, or a separate piece? If the former, can't we have it separate? I don't like loading my troopers with extra weight, and I know from past experience that removing a backpack from a mini is not as easy as it seems.

EDIT: Ooops, I forgot to mention that you're likely onto a winner with these troopers! :applause:
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Bahir March 22, 2010, 12:43:49 AM
I really like these troopers, however I think I would prefer them with the pack optional.

Did you decide how multi-part they would be?
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: almostsilentbob March 22, 2010, 09:33:01 AM
Zoë's going to hurt me but I think the troopers have gone on my 'need' list - they're awesome!
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: beefcake March 23, 2010, 02:12:54 AM
That sniper and Tiny have made the trenchies go on my needs list.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Inso March 23, 2010, 09:21:02 PM
The paint job has made a great miniature into an awesome one!
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris March 24, 2010, 07:47:42 PM
Apparently Khurasan do a Crabman that's similar looking already.

(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/sponk.jpg)

I think the chap who runs it is pissed off for some reason. I honestly hadn't seen it, but there's no denying it's pretty similar (although his is smaller). There's only so many ways of doing Crabmen I guess!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fzQTkEnOpyM/S05pN8XpOKI/AAAAAAAAAAc/z9WBAk8A4W4/s1600-h/sponk.jpg

Wish I'd seen that sketch and the green when I was googling last month, I wouldn't have wasted my time with Crabbie! Would have gone for something a bit different in look, more man-like.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Ryan March 24, 2010, 09:09:15 PM
do a "not clawful" please andy PLEASE!  :notworthy:
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Toosh March 24, 2010, 09:09:16 PM
Oh the crabman is my favourite Andy - please say you are going to still produce him :)

PS...yours is better than his.....  :paranoid2:
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: wellender March 24, 2010, 09:52:56 PM
Maybe change him into a Lobster Man.  Long body and a tail.  Bigger claws.  He could have many legs coming off the body instead of two humanoid ones.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: mcfonz March 24, 2010, 11:18:44 PM
If you go more humanoid then just let me know and I will see what I can do in regards to District 9. Infact drop me a pm.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Custom_Hobby March 25, 2010, 01:57:33 PM
Andy finish it. There should be enough of a difference by the end.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: gi6ers March 25, 2010, 02:04:33 PM
Captain Crayfish

http://www.allsortsemporium.net/MSB-Toys-The-Monkey-King/c207_209/p1128/Captain-Crayfish-By-MSB-Toys/product_info.html
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Avicenna March 25, 2010, 05:11:57 PM
I honestly hadn't seen it, but there's no denying it's pretty similar (although his is smaller).

His looks like a crab, yours looks like a crab... What else is it gonna look like?

As the Hürn would say "sh*t happens" :P
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: vectrum March 25, 2010, 08:04:18 PM
nice job Andy  :thumbup: not somthing i would buy as i have no place or use for them.
but what i would really like to see is that dragon. had the space for that on the shelf for nearly a year now  :D      :angel:
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: beefcake March 26, 2010, 02:14:33 AM
nice job Andy  :thumbup: not somthing i would buy as i have no place or use for them.
but what i would really like to see is that dragon. had the space for that on the shelf for nearly a year now  :D      :angel:
Like cheese, good things take time.

not that the dragon has any resemblance to cheese in the slightest... uh oh I'm in trouble now
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: superkrispydj April 02, 2010, 05:28:16 PM
I honestly hadn't seen it, but there's no denying it's pretty similar (although his is smaller).

His looks like a crab, yours looks like a crab... What else is it gonna look like?

As the Hürn would say "sh*t happens" :P
:metoo: ha ha ha...  true though!!  I think they look really cool (I do love non human spiky sthings).  There will be enough differences anyway come the end.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: TheGremlin April 30, 2010, 08:18:52 PM
I don't suppose that Khurasan minis mind this: http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2010/04/30/35718 (http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2010/04/30/35718)



I'm definitely going to buy some single piece troopers! :D
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Sinewgrab May 02, 2010, 10:38:17 PM
Apparently Khurasan do a Crabman that's similar looking already.

(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/sponk.jpg)

I think the chap who runs it is pissed off for some reason. I honestly hadn't seen it, but there's no denying it's pretty similar (although his is smaller). There's only so many ways of doing Crabmen I guess!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fzQTkEnOpyM/S05pN8XpOKI/AAAAAAAAAAc/z9WBAk8A4W4/s1600-h/sponk.jpg

Wish I'd seen that sketch and the green when I was googling last month, I wouldn't have wasted my time with Crabbie! Would have gone for something a bit different in look, more man-like.

Why do anything different from what you are? If he was doing his in 28mm, then sure, he can be cranky. For those of us who are not interested in 15mm though, his loss. I like his sculpt, but I am looking forward to yours for my Fallout project, and I would use his, if they weren't 'mini-mirelurks'...but they are. A 9' critter in 15mm is barely waisthigh on a heroic 28mm. I love some of his sculpts, but really?

I say do yours, and do it NOW.  :whip: I needs me some mirelurks...

 :smile:
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Dienekes May 03, 2010, 11:38:02 AM
 :metoo:

I cannot but agree.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Vestan Pance May 03, 2010, 04:56:17 PM


I think the chap who runs it is pissed off for some reason. I honestly hadn't seen it, but there's no denying it's pretty similar (although his is smaller). There's only so many ways of doing Crabmen I guess!



Yet he's making a Zoat...people in glass houses an' that  :roll:

Anyway, I was thinking about some Citi-Def troopers for a Gangs of Mega-City One game, so that's sorted - cheers Andy  :smile:
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Khurasanminiatures May 14, 2010, 05:24:29 AM
I think the chap who runs it is pissed off for some reason.

I wonder why you'd say that when we chatted about this privately?

You actually asked me if I was pissed and I said that I just thought it was ironic, and I explained why too.

Last year I was liking the way that Andy's dragon was shaping up so I e-mailed him to tell him so and ask if he would give me permission to use it as a basis for a 15mm dragon.  Andy said no.  He said a lot of thought goes into the design of a model like this.  All I needed to hear, I agree with him on that and backed right off.  (I've since decided to make my dragon, which hasn't even been started yet, wingless and more lizardy.)

Well, then a month or so ago I open up a thread on TMP and I see a crabman quite similar indeed to concept sketches I had posted on TMP in fall of 09.  Hmm, I think, who made that?  Why, it's the very same Andy from Heresy!  People started e-mailing me and telling me that it was an obvious copy, something I was not so convinced of, but I just had to laugh when I thought of the conversation Andy and I had had about the dragon, and now this turns up!  So I wrote Andy privately and that's pretty much what we talked about.  I pointed out how ironic it was to see the crabman after the dragon discussion.  Andy said yes, it would be ironic, except he had not seen my concept sketches and that was good enough for me, believed him.  Still, as I said, it was ironic for my part!

This all happened privately because I wouldn't post anything like this publicly (even though several people chose to do so on that TMP thread), as it could hurt someone's reputation to air this kind of thing publicly.

And that, as the man says, is that.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: mcfonz May 14, 2010, 08:33:47 AM
Fairplay but to be honest I wouldn't go by much that happens on the TMP message boards.

But suggesting its ironic implies that there is a level of annoyance. I am not sure how far back it goes but there have been several polls on here about what people wouldl like to see next and at least one of those polls included crabmen which was a long time before fall last year. So I should imagine that Andy was having ideas and maybe even concepts prior to you posting pictures on the TMP.

This isn't a dig really - just a reality check. Again I don't really see the irony because its just as possible that you have seen the poll on this website and due to the knock back about the dragon concepted some crabmen just to throw back at Andy. I am not suggesting this happened at all but I don't see where there is any irony involved really. Could it also be that Andy planned to do his dragon in 15mm at some point too? He has mentioned making some smaller scale stuff in the past (I think something else in a poll as well).
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Bergil May 14, 2010, 09:38:56 AM
Those troopers are sweet! mostly enjoying the variety of heads and armour, not to mention the little boot laces!

Might have to get a few of those...
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: beefcake May 14, 2010, 10:14:06 AM
A 15mm version of Andy's dragon would still be a large dragon by a 28mm scale.So I can see Andy's point
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris May 14, 2010, 12:05:12 PM
Hey Jon
I posted the original post here before you and I had a chat about it, based on the rather abrupt email you sent me which implied a certain degree of bemusement on your part, whatever was actually intended. Since then we've chatted on email and I assumed it was settled.
I'll happily post the entire two email conversations if it will help clear up certain matters for anyone who was confused about the idea that two people might independently come up with the idea of a crabman figure, especially if one of them had spent a lot of time replaying X-Com terror From the Deep prior to doing his WIP crabman that he'd been planning for a couple of years. ;)
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: beefcake May 14, 2010, 12:10:18 PM
Does that mean you'll make some troopers with vibro-drills to take down your crab man.
I've gotta crank that game out again.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Big Boris May 14, 2010, 12:27:54 PM
: Khurasan Miniatures
-----Original Message-----
From: Khurasan Miniatures
[mailto:khurasanminiatures@yahoo.com]
 
Sent: 12 May 2009 19:39
To: orders@heresyminiatures.com
Subject: Dragon's great
 Love it.  How would you like to make one half-size (15mm), for my company?
Don't hate me for asking, I know we already discussed commish and you're busy with your own stuff.  I just couldn't resist.
  :)
atb,
Jon
http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com

@Beefcake
That was one of the ideas, yes! I was trying to think of how you might do a technologically advanced Crab Fork of some kind...

Anyway, Crabbie in 28mm or 15mm scale is off the List of Doom at the moment. I will still be doing them for my 15mm sci-fi line, though, so Jon should be aware of that. Along with cow-men, fish-men, dog-men and all the other mutated earth-creature slaves the Feebloids came up with. BUt that's the distant future, I've got at least 2 or 3 years worth of stuff to do before then that will make more money! I am in need of widely desirable commercial models and the Troopers are a better investment at this point in time.
: Heresy Miniatures

LOL, this one IS 15mm scale, Jon ;)
When I finish it, I am going to cry tears of relief and then get on with the gazillion other things I have been wanting to sculpt instead of it. Who knew it would take this long?? (Well, everyone but me, probably)
Cheers
Andy
: Khurasan Miniatures
Sent: 12 May 2009 22:24
To: orders@heresyminiatures.com
Subject: RE: Dragon's great
 
Would you object if I put one of my putty pushers on it to make one like it but in 15mm, erm, I mean 8mm?  It's your design so I would entirely understand if you do.  Let me know, thanks.
 
Jon
: Heresy Miniatures
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 5:31 PM
 I suppose I would really, having broken my back to think this one through; but why not just get them to do one of their own design anyway? They'll enjoy it a lot more and you'll get a better result out of them. If they're anything like me or the sculptors I've hired over the years. Plus people won't look at it and say, 'He's just copied the Heresy dragon.'

: Khuarasan Miniatures
Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 5:39 PM
Well, that would be a GOOD thing if it looked like the Heresy dragon!  But I will bow to
your desires and stay away from the design.  Totally understandable really, though it depends on the
artist.  When Dragonblood came out with their lizardman lord I was wowed by it and asked Eric if he wanted to make lizardmen looking like that for me in 15mm and he declined, so I asked him if he'd mind if someone made lizardmen for me in 15mm inspired by his lord and he said no he would not
mind.  I'd never do it without asking though; you've put a lot into this so it's your property.

Guess it would help if I had a 15mm fantasy line to put it into!  lol
 
atb,
jon

And then after the WIP crabman pics appeared on TMP (Forgive me, I'm copying from the emails you sent me as I'm on my home PC at the moment and don't have the full emails that I sent from the workshop on record except where you copied them in your emails)

On 23/3/10 21:18, "Khurasan Miniatures" <khurasanminiatures@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Looks familiar:

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=181896

All the best,
http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com

So from this brief missive, I assumed you must be pissed off. No hello, or even a name or anything, you see. I replied to you and posted my comment on here, as I was a little embarassed to have done something that DID look a slightly like your concept sketch, but totally by coincidence. As I explained in this email to you (and at this point, TBH, I had forgotten about the dragon thing, your previous email having been whisked away to the archive folders).

--- On Wed, 3/24/10, Heresy Miniatures <andy@heresyminiatures.com> wrote:

From: Heresy Miniatures <andy@heresyminiatures.com>
Subject: Re: Crabman
To: "Khurasan Miniatures" <khurasanminiatures@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:36 PM

Well, yeah, it's a crabman. There's only so much you can do with the concept. I had a good google before I started mine and didn't see yours. (I hadn't aseen it on TMP either, as I rarely check the boards there). I prefer it! It's much more like what I had in my head when I
started sculpting, but with less limbs.
Are you upset about this or something? Normally people at least leave their name and say hello when they email me ;)
All the best
Andy

: Khurasan Miniatures
On 25/3/10 01:10, "Khurasan Miniatures"
wrote:

Well, it just struck me as a little ironic after an e-mail chat we had last
spring.  I'll forward it to you to refresh your memory if can it's slipped
your mind.

On Mar 25, 2010, at 4:11 AM, Heresy Miniatures <andy@heresyminiatures.com> wrote:

Well, it would be ironic if it was deliberate, but it wasn't deliberate.
What you suggested last spring was to deliberately, identically duplicate my dragon design but smaller.
What I have done is get halfway through sculpting something generic that looks a bit like a crabman you've done because the source influences are similar. In my case, I've been playing a lot of the classic 90's computer game Xcom: Terror From The Deep, which features lobstermen, and I wanted to do something along those lines. I sugested doing crabmen last spring, too.
http://forum-of-doom.com/index.php?topic=10708.0
So by your logic, you got the idea from me ;) Except of course you didn't.
This is  the miniatures industry and crabmen aren't an original idea so it's just one of those things where people work on stuff in parallel without the other party knowing about it.
In any case, I wouldn't worry about it:
1) Yours is tiny, mine is 57mm tall. No-one is going to be confused.
2) I'm not gong to finish this one 'as is'. I already abandoned it for the time being. If I go back to it it will have multiple legs instead of the two swimming legs (which are based on the Mirelurk, I assume you've seen that.

In fact the main figure is based on the Mirelurk, which looks a lot like most crabmen do) and it was going to be a lot more spiky and crustaceous.
I just wish I had seen yours when I googled 'crabman' and 'crabmen' at the time. I didn't google 'sponk'. Hadn't heard of it. If I had, I wouldn't have bothered going as far down the crab-like direction that I did.

Yes, of course!  I meant ironic from my perspective.

All the best,
http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com

And that, I think, was that, wasn't it? Are you saying people have contacted you since then to complain about this crabman looking like your Sponk figure? Or did you just spot this thread and figure I must have been 'having a pop' (as they say round these parts) since the chat we had? If so, you're mistaken but please accept an apology regardless if I have inadvertently caused offence.

Andy
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: mcfonz May 16, 2010, 06:56:13 PM
Right, looks like that only lasted two rounds tops.

Anyway - what else have you got planned for the troopers etc Andy. I am thinking squad support weapons etc. I am thinking a small rocke launcher or rpg, a small flamer, squad support mmg type.

And will you be doing a sprue of the rifles the troopers are armed with?
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: Inso May 16, 2010, 07:28:17 PM
Seeing as the Trenchcoat Gangers have such a nice chaingun, it would be nice to see the sci-fi troopers getting one too.
: Re: Some WIPs for you - Crabman, Troopers and a Sniper Gang-type
: DRAGON May 16, 2010, 07:37:54 PM
 :metoo: that would be cool and save Andy a bit of time sculpting a new weapon !
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: mcfonz May 16, 2010, 08:50:15 PM
Seeing as the Trenchcoat Gangers have such a nice chaingun, it would be nice to see the sci-fi troopers getting one too.

Yes, maybe with a bit more casing to represent more recent tech and better build quality. Black Market weapons are never the most reliable after all.
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: blackfly May 20, 2010, 09:14:27 PM
I'm diggin' Sir Roger, Andy. I hope when he comes around, he might be available sans dragon. :)
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: tank_santa June 02, 2010, 11:36:57 PM
I like the female troopers rifle better anyways. I say that should become the new standard firearm.
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: Neon Samurai July 20, 2010, 08:46:37 AM
I don't suppose you'll be adding that sniper rifle to your weapons range?
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: Vyperzoom July 24, 2010, 02:13:14 PM
SO lets see those head variants you promised Andy, itching to get to grips with these, also a trooper sniper would be a great addition. Could we also have a flame unit (flamer) small, say M16 sized with canister and flame nozzle, be good for your troopers and good as s weapons pack addition as I have some colonial marines that require then. ;)

Cheers

Vyper
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: Buggrit October 15, 2010, 11:21:42 PM
I like the little square on the helmet design... just the right place to paint a bio chip....
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: mcfonz October 19, 2010, 04:16:54 PM
Any new trenchie goodness to get me excited about and/or counting my pennies for?

Only a gentle poke as I do realise that the Dragon is taking up a bit of time at the moment and is a matter of priority.
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: Penfold October 19, 2010, 05:17:20 PM
there was a new one at derby not quit finished but a must have  :wink:
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: mcfonz October 19, 2010, 06:12:37 PM
there was a new one at derby not quit finished but a must have  :wink:

Sweet. My local gaming club is getting a necromunda campaign up and running and I simply have to use my trenchies. Am suplementing them with Delaques which look utterly poo in comparison, big hands big hands big hands . . . . .
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: Sidri_cyberdog October 19, 2010, 10:00:41 PM
Go trenchies Go!!!! :boing:

I really can't wait for new trenchies!!! My necromunda gang is shocking everyone with style and coolness. Well, in fact 2 games I won just because the minis were cool... :wink:
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: Big Boris October 20, 2010, 08:54:27 AM
One of the first things on the list after the Dragon is more trenchies, (along with rejigging the goblins, new troopers and a new Hürn. And everything else on the Wall of Doom in my office.)
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: beefcake October 20, 2010, 08:57:48 AM
Woo hoo, more trenchies. Any plans for new gangs on the way or are you going to get the trenchies all finalised first.

woo hoo for the goblins too, they look awesome
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: Big Boris October 20, 2010, 09:14:31 AM
I don't think I'll ever really run out of trenchies to do, i have at least 6 more planned, and even that's excluding all the Noobs I could do. There will be more gangs, just a question of deciding which ones would sell best and be most fun for me to sculpt.
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: Cait Sidhe October 20, 2010, 02:09:57 PM
I don't think I'll ever really run out of trenchies to do, i have at least 6 more planned, and even that's excluding all the Noobs I could do. There will be more gangs, just a question of deciding which ones would sell best and be most fun for me to sculpt.

Punk rocker babes!  :whistle:

I also think you're style would suit a good 'roid rage gang of muscle heads. Could guest star Boris.  :P
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: Buggrit October 20, 2010, 02:28:39 PM
 :metoo:
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: LazarusKing October 20, 2010, 10:31:08 PM
Punk rocker babes!  :whistle:

I also think you're style would suit a good 'roid rage gang of muscle heads. Could guest star Boris.  :P

Seconding the punk rocker babes, and the 'roid ragers.  Cyborg Boris!
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: beefcake October 21, 2010, 03:41:53 AM
Is 'roid short for hemeroid, that certainly puts people in a rage.
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: Mr Teufel October 21, 2010, 10:41:26 AM
'roid = Steroids, (just in case you really didn't know... :wink: )
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: Ben Brownlie October 21, 2010, 01:24:51 PM
And there was me hoping they'd be mad at big floaty space rocks ;)
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: mcfonz October 22, 2010, 09:46:02 AM
I don't think I'll ever really run out of trenchies to do, i have at least 6 more planned, and even that's excluding all the Noobs I could do. There will be more gangs, just a question of deciding which ones would sell best and be most fun for me to sculpt.

Ooooh, noobs, I sort of get by using cartwheel and reckless as noobs as the moment. Well I shall certainly start getting a little stash together just for trenchies then.
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: DRAGON October 22, 2010, 09:57:01 AM
More trenchies  :lalala: - now get on and finish the Dragon !  :lol:
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: mcfonz October 22, 2010, 11:07:35 AM
More trenchies  :lalala: - now get on and finish the Dragon !  :lol:

Hehe, well I did say I conceeded the dragon is a priority. And its all over Andy's twitter at the moment!
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: DRAGON October 22, 2010, 11:20:57 AM
Dont get me wrong, but I have all the current Trenchies and more will always be welcome - but I dont have the Dragon  :blub:
 
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: Inso October 31, 2010, 03:59:32 PM
Dont get me wrong, but I have all the current Trenchies and more will always be welcome - but I dont have the Dragon  :blub:
 

...well it is finished now...so stop crying :) .
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: nooker January 04, 2011, 05:19:58 PM
I don't think I'll ever really run out of trenchies to do, i have at least 6 more planned, and even that's excluding all the Noobs I could do. There will be more gangs, just a question of deciding which ones would sell best and be most fun for me to sculpt.

I'd love to see some noobs.  The models you've done so far are wonderful and I've gotten all but Napalm Ned (he will be mine soon!), but noobs would really round out gang idea very well.

nooker