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« Reply #200 on: February 09, 2008, 04:35:46 PM »
:shrug: question about the sea. If you found a fish at the deepest part of the sea and brought it up to the surface really quickly would it explode, as a goldfish would implode if you took it to the bottom of the sea.

Based on my meagre knowledge of diving physiology I have allways assumed that it would. The lungs sure do if you get up to fast from a deep dive. Apart from the bends that's one of the most common causes of death in scuba diving. So it sure should be the same for deep water fishes I assume.

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« Reply #201 on: February 12, 2008, 12:47:07 AM »
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I used to know a girl who was a vegetarian (because she thought it was cruel) but didn't like vegetables either.  Her entire diet consisted of pasta/rice and cheese, and she wondered why she kept gaining weight!
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« Reply #202 on: February 12, 2008, 12:48:02 PM »
:shrug: question about the sea. If you found a fish at the deepest part of the sea and brought it up to the surface really quickly would it explode, as a goldfish would implode if you took it to the bottom of the sea.

Based on my meagre knowledge of diving physiology I have allways assumed that it would. The lungs sure do if you get up to fast from a deep dive. Apart from the bends that's one of the most common causes of death in scuba diving. So it sure should be the same for deep water fishes I assume.


Firstly a goldfish won't implode when you take it too deep, it'll just die. It's swim bladder will expel gas until it's completely empty, compressed down to nothing, and it would be fine. For implosion you need a rigid gas pocket, like your chest cavity, sinuses or eardrums. What'll kill it will be a combination of sensory overload, it's unprotected neurons will fire at a ridiculous, uncontrolled rate causing it's body to spasm, possibly with sufficient strength to break it's own back, and the complete breakdown of it's metabolism as it's unprotected proteins unravel under the pressure.
Bringing something up is a whole different story. Theoretically it should be physically fine but poorly adapted to it's new environment, it's neurons will fire very slowly possibly slow enough to kill it. In reality what happens is the fish is usually brought up too quickly. Most deep sea fish have a blind swim bladder, there's no holes in it. Gas is exchanged in and out via the blood. This is an incredibly accurate way of maintaining correct buoyancy but it's really slow, you can't just blow off gas, like a surfacing diver can from their lungs. Which means the swim bladder expands massively as the pressure on it is released. Theoretically this could lead to an explosion but what happens in my experience is based on the facts that the swim bladder is enormously elastic and the body of a fish isn't a blind sack. The bladder expands and becomes too large for the body cavity and so it makes room by pushing all the fish's internal organs out through it's mouth, finally pushing much of it's own way out. It isn't pleasant to look at :)
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Re: things that really p** you off
« Reply #203 on: February 12, 2008, 01:04:44 PM »
:shrug: question about the sea. If you found a fish at the deepest part of the sea and brought it up to the surface really quickly would it explode, as a goldfish would implode if you took it to the bottom of the sea.

Based on my meagre knowledge of diving physiology I have allways assumed that it would. The lungs sure do if you get up to fast from a deep dive. Apart from the bends that's one of the most common causes of death in scuba diving. So it sure should be the same for deep water fishes I assume.


Firstly a goldfish won't implode when you take it too deep, it'll just die. It's swim bladder will expel gas until it's completely empty, compressed down to nothing, and it would be fine. For implosion you need a rigid gas pocket, like your chest cavity, sinuses or eardrums. What'll kill it will be a combination of sensory overload, it's unprotected neurons will fire at a ridiculous, uncontrolled rate causing it's body to spasm, possibly with sufficient strength to break it's own back, and the complete breakdown of it's metabolism as it's unprotected proteins unravel under the pressure.
Bringing something up is a whole different story. Theoretically it should be physically fine but poorly adapted to it's new environment, it's neurons will fire very slowly possibly slow enough to kill it. In reality what happens is the fish is usually brought up too quickly. Most deep sea fish have a blind swim bladder, there's no holes in it. Gas is exchanged in and out via the blood. This is an incredibly accurate way of maintaining correct buoyancy but it's really slow, you can't just blow off gas, like a surfacing diver can from their lungs. Which means the swim bladder expands massively as the pressure on it is released. Theoretically this could lead to an explosion but what happens in my experience is based on the facts that the swim bladder is enormously elastic and the body of a fish isn't a blind sack. The bladder expands and becomes too large for the body cavity and so it makes room by pushing all the fish's internal organs out through it's mouth, finally pushing much of it's own way out. It isn't pleasant to look at :)

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« Reply #204 on: February 16, 2008, 02:06:26 AM »
It really  :swear: me off when people don't take responseability for their own actions. You know the type, "what did you do that for" reply "wasn't me" "I just saw you do it" reply "weren't me" sneer "it was somebody else" :eatlead:. What happened to "sorry" "it won't happen again".

I also hate  :swear: in front of women. I know most women  :swear: like troopers now, but it's the principle of the matter :angel:.

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« Reply #205 on: February 16, 2008, 06:42:08 AM »
I also hate  :swear: in front of women. I know most women  :swear: like troopers now, but it's the principle of the matter :angel:.

I concur, profanity is the product of a lazy mind. Why a group of fellas (or girls for that matter) feel the need to fill in the gaps with expletives, I don't know?
Mind you, some of the "Ladies" (and let's use the term loosely) where I work, would make a Docker blush. Very inventive and descriptive.

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« Reply #206 on: February 16, 2008, 10:05:21 AM »
I also hate  :swear: in front of women.
Why? Are they delicate little flowers to be shielded from nastiness?

I concur, profanity is the product of a lazy mind.
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« Reply #207 on: February 16, 2008, 10:07:25 AM »
:swear:
:shock: I didn't think that would get past the filter.

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« Reply #208 on: February 16, 2008, 11:11:29 AM »
I get pissed off with people who get at vegetarians. Do I get at you because you eat lumps of rotting flesh?
There is no need to take a life so that you can indulge in eating food that is bad for you anyway.
Before you criticise vegetarians do some proper research into it so you at least have some idea what you are talking about. this is problably not the place to start a discussion about the relevant merits of eating fresh fruit and vetetables against rotting and decaying flesh [ it has to start to rot before humans can digest it- check it out] so I shall not respond to the many replies I'm sure I'll get from you meat eating ghouls.
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« Reply #209 on: February 16, 2008, 12:11:12 PM »
Swear words are all part of our natural upbringing, words dating back to the Celts & Anglo-saxons. Swearing in front of women was not the done thing in my dads household, so with upbringing, so comes habit & old habits die hard. :shrug:.

As for veggies, isn't it your choice to be what you are, why would somebody condemn you for eating fruit & veg. My best mate whom I grew up with has been a veggie all his life, not once have we argued or talked about each others choices in food. The only thing I do differently is that I have spare pans & cooking utensils for when he comes & stays. When I visit his place I eat vegetarian, nice for change.

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« Reply #210 on: February 16, 2008, 01:09:03 PM »
Swearing in front of women was not the done thing in my dads household, so with upbringing, so comes habit & old habits die hard. :shrug:.
Upbringing in Yorkshire? Reason I ask is that many of my mates had a similar attitude when I lived in Ilkley as a teenager. Down here in the south, I've rarely come across any pressure for men to moderate their language when ladies are present. Of course, it's dependent on the situation and the company as I wouldn't dream of effing and blinding in front of my grandmother for instance.

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« Reply #211 on: February 16, 2008, 01:32:40 PM »
Do I get at you because you eat lumps of rotting flesh?

...you meat eating ghouls.

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« Reply #212 on: February 16, 2008, 03:44:32 PM »
. . . when my boss comes to me 20 minutes before I'm getting ready to leave on a Friday and expects me to finish a 3 hour project for him and because I don't like to disapoint and because it was very important, I go ahead and do it.  I'm not only ticked off at him, I'm ticked off at myself for not putting my foot down.

Concerning profanity, I don't think it's the product of a lazy mind, more a condition of habit.  When used seldom and at the right moment, it can be very effective communication.  My father couldn't hardly breath without cursing and his expletives were pretty much ignored by everyone.  Let my mom cut loose, and suddenly she had your undivided attention.  Of course mom's can make your name into an expletive.  You know your in trouble when they use your full name along with the words, " ... come over here right now!"
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« Reply #213 on: February 16, 2008, 04:08:57 PM »
My own lack of self control has now really p****d me off. A few years ago I got seriously hooked on fruit machines but eventually managed to "kick the habit". Last week I went into the local bookies with a friend and managed to off load a sizeable wedge of cash into the damned things  :(
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« Reply #214 on: February 17, 2008, 01:21:02 AM »
Swearing in front of women was not the done thing in my dads household, so with upbringing, so comes habit & old habits die hard. :shrug:.
Upbringing in Yorkshire?

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Strange you say that about Yorkshiremen, the ones I know would kill a bleep machine in seconds.
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« Reply #215 on: February 17, 2008, 01:17:17 PM »
The thing that REALLY p***es me off, is people that come on a specialist forum or chat room to talk about things not remotely connected to the topic of the forum....


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« Reply #216 on: February 17, 2008, 08:40:34 PM »
This place is getting worse then Frothers  :P
I digress.
People tend to use profanities in conversation to fill gaps in their dialogue - this is what I mean by lazy mind.  :wink:
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« Reply #217 on: February 17, 2008, 10:07:49 PM »
wot p**sis me off is the a'hole's that stand there looking at you for
10 minute's & then ask were you've been :whaaa: then wen you tell
them they stand there calling you a lier :tantrum:!!!!
or the dip stick that gives you a 10 note wen you've just started work....
who would be a bus driver!!!!!........... :shrug: :huh?:

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« Reply #218 on: February 17, 2008, 10:21:32 PM »
Eh?

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Oh, right...

or the dip stick that gives you a 10 note wen you've just started work...

In my defence I've yet to find a cash machine that doles out fivers, or change. ;)

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« Reply #219 on: February 17, 2008, 10:38:10 PM »
Do I get at you because you eat lumps of rotting flesh?

Yes, your post is a tiny bit anti-carnivore isn't it?

I'm an omnivore, I've got all sorts of teeth for the job  :D  Bacon Sarnie anyone?

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« Reply #220 on: February 17, 2008, 11:08:24 PM »
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yes please.. but make it a BLT... all food groups then.
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« Reply #221 on: February 18, 2008, 09:59:12 AM »
Hi  gi6ers. You have different types of teeth because you are a mammal, not because you are designed to eat meat. Horses have canine teeth called 'wolf teeth' because they too are mammals, not because they eat meat.
Wildheart- my recollection is that John Mortimer QC argued that the word under discussion referred to ' small balls'. At least that is what he argued before the magistrates. What is the Anglo Saxon for priest?
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« Reply #222 on: February 18, 2008, 10:25:25 AM »
I hate being angry all the time...and there is no reason for it :(.
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« Reply #223 on: February 18, 2008, 10:58:24 AM »
Hi  gi6ers. You have different types of teeth because you are a mammal, not because you are designed to eat meat.

Humans are omnivores. Vegetarianism is fine (for other people :whistle: ) but don't try and convince me that I'm not designed to eat meat as part of a balanced diet, because I am.
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« Reply #224 on: February 18, 2008, 11:06:56 AM »
I don't want this to turn into some kind of veggie/meat flame war and make people feel ostracised, but... Kev's avatar relates to a point I want to make.

I'm off now to prepare my chickpea curry. :angel: No really
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