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« on: December 08, 2005, 08:37:23 PM »
I just thought I'd post a link to this conversation that starts full of praise but gets a bit too bitchy for my liking  :evil: ...the knives are out.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91352

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2005, 08:53:28 PM »
thats totaly unfair ...

i dont like people like that they always talk about GW stuff and slate evry other company that do minis ...

the bit about the helmet is really stupid ... who cears if it looks like a SM helmet GW have so much money anyway why would they bother sueing kev ...

thats why i like this forum because no one slags off other minis ...

i might just post on there and slag them all off !!

grrrr

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2005, 09:08:28 PM »
Doesn't seem too bad, I seem to remember a few of us asking about the marine style helmet.....

Looks like a few of them bought some stuff too.

I even got a mention (not for my painting though  8) )

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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2005, 09:10:57 PM »
Don't go over there starting a flamewar. It's all relatively nice at the moment and other guys in the forum are telling the naysayers where to get off.

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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2005, 09:16:28 PM »
sorry i dont really like GW stuff so i got a tinywiny bit mad about them say they should sue you ... i wont really say anything ... ill just sit here behind my computer screen makeing myseft look really stupid  ... lol

maby tis was abit of a over reaction ... but i was just trying to go with the flow ...  :oops:


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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2005, 09:16:38 PM »
Ah...let them rant...at the end of the day, fanboys and girls are fanboys and girls...

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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2005, 09:27:04 PM »
It's people like the naysayers at B&C and the rest that turned me off 40K. The GW fanboys (or should I say fanbois) are so quick to say, "Ripoff of 40K, they should be sued, blah blah blah, etc etc, yadda yadda."

They're a bunch of bytches.

Now I play Chain Reaction 2.0 and it's variants (ATZ, etc.) and I can use whichever minis I want for my forces. And when one of the fanboys asks, "How do you justify US military troops against Ancient Egyptians?", I point to the large circular piece of scenery and say, "It's a Stargate skirmish, you schmuck."
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2005, 09:31:42 PM »
wouldn't it be easier to say 'It's a game and we're enjoying ourselves...'

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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2005, 11:22:26 PM »
I love the bits about "ripping off the ultra marines symbol".....  have they never heard of Omega?

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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2005, 11:41:23 PM »
It's because they realise that Kev's stuff is a hell of a lot better and cheeper too. :wink:

They don't have enough stuff to talk about so they try to pick apart other companys stuff, which is sad.
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Right let forget about them and get back to the good stuff. :D
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2005, 11:43:27 PM »
ignorant pricks....they need to get new glasses

and this comment by me totally knackered is an 'off the cuff' one i shall prolly regret in the morning if they take offence to it!

ahh well...............let someone else moderate it if they wish
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2005, 11:52:12 PM »
Sounds about right to me Sally. :wink:
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2005, 12:10:01 AM »
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ignorant pricks....they need to get new glasses


I wish I could say stuff like that... :(

But cmon, the Omega sign is part of the Greek alphabet, its not as if GW made it up from their imagination.

I personally like how there are direct similarities to other products, I buy stuff like that since even if its not entirely accurate due to copyright reasons, its damn well better than what the official source can do.

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2005, 03:14:31 AM »
they are harmless.  wouldn't get uptight about it.

on the other hand, I noticed my libby in sci fi armour is not up on the gallery.  Hey Simon, poke poke...

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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2005, 07:53:26 AM »
It'll be up as soon as I figure out why my nortons firewalls blocking the page, and when I can get around it without losing the protection :(

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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2005, 08:41:38 AM »
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It'll be up as soon as I figure out why my nortons firewalls blocking the page, and when I can get around it without losing the protection :(


have u asked Chris or tony to see if they have any suggestions yet??
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2005, 10:57:19 AM »
I am just surprised that nobody has noted that the main reason that GW has taken no legal action is that the 40k universe designs and concepts are equally based on other products...  

Mostly Japanese Manga/Anime designs for power armour and the like, and some of those companies have equally strong legal departments...

Of course I have no evidence to present, but then I am not on the legal teams.  ;)
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2005, 10:58:17 AM »
Yuup... Thats GW Fanboys for you...

"use this bit to represent this bit (which GW doesn't even make) and thats cool..."
the idea that a lot of these things (Greek alphabet, Powered Armour ideas)are out there en-masse and is not specifically GW... escapes them completely...

Good one Kev for keeping cool about the stupidity...
and do let us know if some MJO starts seriously giving you guys any trouble about any of this fluff & stuff, you do have a loyal and caring customer base who will stand behind you and would help you push back.
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2005, 03:00:25 PM »
Im only on the first page, but the omega comments made me laugh. ;)

Hehe and the Logan Grimnar one... its a guy with facial hair :D

Oh, there's only one page.
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2005, 03:16:57 PM »
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But cmon, the Omega sign is part of the Greek alphabet, its not as if GW made it up from their imagination.


It's not as if they invented blue just so space marines could be that colour either :p.
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2005, 04:06:32 PM »
Ultramarine blue is a proper colour, not something GW made up (suprised by that when I first saw it in an Art lesson)

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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2005, 04:13:34 AM »
Ultramarine Blue used to be my favourite colour when I was little. I had this old paint bottle full of it and the blue was soo gorgeous.

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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2005, 05:56:40 PM »
I don't suppose anyone wants to bump the topic to the top of the message boards over there? I can't do it as I made the last post :ninja:
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2005, 06:47:33 PM »
Done and dusted  :wink:
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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2005, 09:03:26 AM »
I've been thinking about this over the weekend and I think we are perhaps not looking at the bigger picture. Being the age I am, tin baths powdered egg the blitz, ok not that old I remember the days before the rise of GW. Then it was the basement of the minifigs shop in Victoria with Orcs who looked like a cross between men and pigs, but I still like them, dwarves and hobgoblins but not many of them and a very basic Sci Fi range. Then I discovered the original GW shop in Hammersmith and was introduced to a wider range of figs but mainly from the US. In fact the shop was run by two fine chaps from North America, the Olsen brothers?, where are they now? Then we had Citadel figs and a wider range of figs. At that time the shop was filled with stuff from all over the world. As time went on things got bigger. But in those early days it seems to me that GW attracted enthusiastic gamers and sculpters all with a similar ethos ie we like this stuff no one else makes it so we will if you want to use it with other figs or rules the choice is yours. Over the years the company got bigger and as such more proffesional, thats to say they had to get more organised and employ suits to do grown up stuff like copy right, wages and all that comlicated stuff that sally somehow manages todo. The end result being, and I'm open to correct here, the biggest games company in the world.
     Now the good thing about this is that in my opinion one of the best sculpters is British, Jez Goodwin, but better than that it has meant that we now have loads of brilliant sculpters who have gone through the GW system come out the other side and developed there own style. The end result of that being we have Kev and Sally and the best figures on the market and and a great company to boot. The other good thing is for every 10 kids who start off in GW I'm sure many move onto other systems.
     The bad thing is that you have big buisness who need to make money, keep share holders happy and all that sort of thing. You also end up with those people who become completely blinkered and think the only system is GW and any variation is wrong. But you get those in all walks of life, windows v apple, etc etc........
     So what am I trying to say?  If GW gets people involved in our hobby lets be happy and ignore the GW zealots. I went to the Games day this year, yes probably overpriced and not as diverse as Salute but enjoyable. But speaking to the likes of Jervis Johnson the people at GW like him are like us enthusiastic gamers who like painting and playing with toy soldiers.
     I'm sure this will cause a bit more debate which is good and why I I'm on the FOD not comedy dwarf and chainsword or whatever it was called.
    I'm off to order more goodies from sally