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« Last Edit: April 28, 2016, 02:16:58 PM by Brandlin »
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Re: Grymn Fliers
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2016, 09:54:10 PM »
Wow. I like that. Very nice! Kind of like that MDF kit in the other thread but with double rotors. Awesome work.

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Re: Grymn Fliers
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2016, 09:58:28 PM »
Wow. I like that. Very nice! Kind of like that MDF kit in the other thread but with double rotors. Awesome work.

excellent - that's what i was going for!

and a vehicle to tow it...

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Re: Grymn Fliers
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2016, 09:27:21 AM »
What an Ace kit bash. Great job :thumbup:

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Re: Grymn Fliers
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2016, 03:43:56 PM »
More progress...

As always more pictures and commentary on my blog




Sorry the pictures aren't great. these are from the ipad camera. I shall break out the decent camera later in the week.
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Re: Grymn Fliers
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2016, 05:33:16 PM »
Sorted through this lot...



to find a suitable nose weapon



Barrel will get cut down a little.
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Re: Grymn Fliers
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2016, 05:46:16 PM »
I have decided to use this thread to also show what other vehicles and forces are going with the kit bash fliers.

This is a Hasslefree Grymn Army with Old Crow Models vehicles.

I just finished detailing up some light recon / fast attack vehicles. These are Old Crow Models Gecko and Goanna Scouts.



More updates as i paint and the other 30+ vehicles I have.
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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2016, 07:14:05 PM »
Initial landing gear design...









I think i like it but am undecided. I like the 'insect-like', 'bug' kind of feel. I also like the fragile light-weight feel to it. But I think it might be a little toy-like.

As always opinions welcomed.
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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2016, 08:11:45 PM »
I'm not sure...

What you need to do is get the tail sorted and then work on the skids. You may find that what you have made becomes unbalanced once you add the tail... adding a tail may also help you to see the bigger picture and decide that the skids look good.

If you are going for insect... you could always try some of these legs:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NjEBgKKEv7k/Tmye9_XNtJI/AAAAAAAAAIc/47dNKAXS_oU/s1600/spider_2.jpg

The kits are cheap as chips (Robogear).

If you stick with skids like you have already started, a step half way up will help :)
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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2016, 08:58:42 PM »
Hi Inso, thanks, it's always great to get your feedback, I do value it.

From a mechanical point of view, the tail is unlikely to overbalanced anything with mass as the weight is all in the resin rotors which is above the rear leg. If it does, I have plenty of space in the cockpit for extra mass to bring the CoG forwards. Also, extending skids a few mm beyond the current brass rod of the landing frame will help both aesthetics and balance.

You are right though, I won't glue in the landing skids until I have sorted the tail. My current idea is a simple and quite large quadrilateral shape, taller than it is wide and racked at the front. Probably several sheets of styrene laminated together and sanded into an aerrofoil.

 :swear: now, you know better than to try and fool me into putting mechanical legs on to my models.  :lmao

Steps up will certainly be required, even a space marine couldn't get in this at the moment let alone a grymn.

I've been playing with this model with the landing gear a few hours and it's growing on me, so I may keep it nice and simple!

Those robo gear sets do look interesting as things for my bits box, the "cockpit" on that one looks very useful.


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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2016, 01:54:08 PM »
I see no link to blog in sig!

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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2016, 03:30:50 PM »
I see no link to blog in sig!

Click the little world icon under my name/avatar.
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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2016, 06:52:40 PM »
Brandlin,  I think it looks good as is, oddly with the twin fans like they are on either side of the body it balances, and the rotor torque will cancel out.  ( though if you want one for your aesthetic vision that's different  :smile: )   once you get some paint on it itll pull together much more as well.
but at the moment deffo  :thumbup:  :applause: 
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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2016, 07:43:55 PM »
plod plod 

current thinking on the tail.

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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2016, 08:14:51 PM »
The shape's good but I'd be tempted to move the whole thing rearwards by about 10mm. That way you get separation from the body, the fan isn't as close to the fin and you keep the compact look.

If you haven't already thought about it, I'd suggest putting a little air intake between the lift fans so that there is some flow to the rear fan too.
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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2016, 09:02:31 PM »
The shape's good but I'd be tempted to move the whole thing rearwards by about 10mm. That way you get separation from the body, the fan isn't as close to the fin and you keep the compact look.

If you haven't already thought about it, I'd suggest putting a little air intake between the lift fans so that there is some flow to the rear fan too.

Hi Inso.

Tail shape is a bit dictated by the space I have to play with on the mobile landing pad, but it can certainly go back a bit.

Air intakes are at the front either side of the nose, I need to model an intake but the basic shape of the ducting is already there.
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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2016, 09:50:32 PM »
Cool :)

The tail doesn't need to go back very far but it will make a big difference.
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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2016, 08:05:15 AM »
I quite like it where it is, I don't however have any practical idea about how useful it would be there. I just think it suits the compact look of the craft in general. Good to mess about with different ideas though.

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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2016, 05:37:12 PM »
Thanks beefcake.

Landing gear and tail fin complete.

Tail is made from three sheets of styrene laminated together and then sanded into a vaguely aerofoil cross section. Its attached with three struts made from paperclips. I may bulk that out with a little styrene to make them look, well, bulkier.





... and on its mobile landing pad.

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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2016, 05:20:20 PM »


Ready for paint.
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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2016, 09:48:55 PM »
Those look great. Is that a missile pod and some recon sensors or something like that? Nice options.

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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2016, 11:26:17 PM »
Shown with interchangeable (left to right) radar/comms pack (2), cannon (2) and missile rack.
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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2016, 03:56:41 PM »
Thought I'd clean the airbrush. And then clean the airbrush. And then for a change, clean the airbrush some more.


And then put some undercoat on the fliers and other models. This is an all over coat of grey primer, followed by Zenithal undercoat - black shot on the underside of the models and a thin white coat shot from the top down. I've never done this before, but it's intended to show through the top coat so that you get a more natural shading of the model colours. I remain to see if this affects my painting.




 
All the models here other than the fliers are from Old Crow Models.
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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2016, 03:17:17 PM »
Windows pre-shaded by airbrush.



Tinted green.

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Re: Grymn / Old Crow Models Army + Grymn Fliers
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2016, 09:08:42 PM »
You make me wish I had an airbrush (and the skills to use it)
Looks really good, the green fits really well, kind of makes me imagine them flying through neon signage.