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How do you prefer your resin monster kits?

As one-piece as possible for fastest assembly ie heads-on.
15 (60%)
Heads-off and arms off to allow easier conversion
9 (36%)
Like a terrible 3d Jigsaw that takes hours to put together and fill.
1 (4%)

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Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« on: March 21, 2014, 11:41:36 AM »
Quick question - I am currently in the process of assembling and best-fitting the old Heresy Monsters for resin-casting purposes, starting with the two Trolls. Do you prefer them in as few parts as possible for fastest assembly, eg heads-on, or with heads off for easier conversion?

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2014, 12:24:49 PM »
For my two penn'orth, I always prefer to spend a little more time in assembly and have more options to vary appearance in case I want a horde.
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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2014, 12:42:18 PM »
Thing is, at shows and when I send stuff to traders, the packs look like bits boxes and just don't sell. People can't see what the miniature looks like in their minds = no sale.

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2014, 12:42:50 PM »
And having individual pictures printed for each pack is waaaaay too expensive for me right now.

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2014, 01:30:44 PM »
Heads on if you can for the reason you stated.  It's resin. Don't like the head? Snap it off and you are done...

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2014, 04:57:41 PM »
As one-part as possible. Its been sculpted in a fixed pose, weight balance, anatomy etc etc. So it looks best in that one pose. No need to do multipart madness ... which reminds me.. i have a Netherlord MKII somewhere around here needing gluing together ;)

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2014, 11:10:13 PM »
Having just made two last year unless you are remaking the neck the places the head looks right are limeted, having seperate arms hands and legs will give a better alround multi possible i would say head/body one mould the two arms hands and legs.
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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2014, 03:23:24 AM »
Heads of but arms off I reckon.
How far in the future is this plan?

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2014, 08:16:09 AM »
The legs are attached to the body, the arms are separate but with hands attached, currently the heads are separate mainly due to moulding needs. The snow troll will come with two heads - one mouth open one mouth closed.

Thing is, this is resin, you can saw through it in seconds with little effort at all, so lopping limbs off  or even slicing through the body at the waist is a piece of the proverbial!

The downside is it takes an hour to produce one model, asuming each part casts 100% successfully - and every mould you have to make extra for alternate limbs etc adds money to the end RRP as it takes up space in the pressure pot that could be used for a different model. I'm told I should cost my models based on  the price of silicon (so each mould adds a fair chunk of it) used divided by 20 (this is assuming you get 20 pulls from a mould before it's knackered) plus the price of resin & waste (each part has waste) plus a cost based on an hour's labour divided by the amount of space each mould takes up in the pot, so if you can get 10 moulds in the pot, you'd be adding at least 65p per part to your base cost, and that doesn't allow for the time taken to strip the moulds and clean all the excess flash out to prep them for next time - all this multiplied by the amount you need to make a worthwhile profit whilst allowing for tax etc. So keeping all the legs and limbs separate is easily doable, but instead of a figure costing, say, 5.00, it would probably cost 12.00, (off the top of my head example)

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2014, 09:03:51 AM »
Heads of but arms off I reckon.
How far in the future is this plan?

I am currently working on the two trolls, the Tunnel Dweller, the winged NetherLord mk 1 and Azaroth hoping to get them moulded and some small amount cast for Salute.

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2014, 09:14:31 AM »
 :boing:  :boing:

Just remoulded? No new sculpting?
It should bring in some much needed cash I'm sure.

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2014, 09:18:31 AM »
I would love to say 'no new sculpting' but I have found it impossible to not do some tweaks, improvements and minor alterations as part of the process.

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2014, 09:20:27 AM »
Maybe I do need two tunnel dwellers then...  :whistle:

Lol, just checked out the facebook page. Nice post about not changing anything.
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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2014, 09:22:36 AM »
You might need three. You'll see. ;)

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2014, 09:23:29 AM »
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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2014, 03:21:01 PM »
You might need three. You'll see. ;)
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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2014, 12:55:55 AM »
Voted for "as one piece as possible" based on the point you made about things in blister packs selling better if you can see what it is, and the possible multiplication of costs/complications with producing them.

There are a few things I would realy  like to see made into multipart, like the giant scorpions. But I guess plastic would be the best medium for stuff like that(?)

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2014, 09:17:30 AM »
Yeah, i was looking at those - I can certainly resin the bodies up, but the legs are so fine/flimsy that I think they'd just break in resin... same for the monstrous spider legs, possibly, but the body for that is definitely going into resin.

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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2014, 01:37:51 PM »
I voted for "as one piece as possible", because of
  • as you said, people rather see what they get, so it's easier for you to sell
  • the single model's price is less (again easier to sell)
  • many pieces/moulds take so much of your time you could use for other goals
  • those bigger monsters aren't used for horde units, so we don't face that much conversion work
  • but if one wants to have a conversion, it's resin anyway
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Re: Resin Monsters - how one-piece should they be?
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2014, 09:25:26 AM »
And having individual pictures printed for each pack is waaaaay too expensive for me right now.
Could you not send out some hanging card photos with each order - cheaper than putting one in each pack ? That way people can see what they are getting assembled - you could always put a link to the site for assembly instructions  :shrug:
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