Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom

[Mortanius]

thats great to hear some news about the dragon.

[DRAGON]

 

[vectrum]

what number am i please andy?

[Big Boris]

64th, Alistair!

[SpeedofDark]

Hi Andy,

Great to hear that the Dragon is finished. I can't wait to see it in "the flesh", so to speak.

Given that others are asking, where would I fit in the order list (Andrew Walliker)?

Cheers

Andrew

[vectrum]

  WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
Got to say I'm very disappointed not to have been given priorty, since I must have been one of the first to pay a deposit within 24 hours of you announcing the dragon, almost two years ago. I know i did not pay the full amount but you have got to admit this dragged on so long and there was a lot going on with your money situation and having to move but that must have made others worry aswell as myself that the whole endeavour would come to a bad end.
I love the items you make, thats why I have so many of them (80+ models), thats why when you first told us about the dragon I put my hand in my pocket right away for the deposit. That should have been enough to have secured a place at the front of the queue. I would remind you it was only in the last few weeks you said first fully paid would receive priority.
I would also remind you that when you took my deposit nearly two years ago you inferred completion would be in a couple of months and nothing was said about my deposit being non-refundable, but now it appears the goal posts have been moved.
I don't want a refund I want the dragon, thats why I've waited almost two years for it.
Do you have any idea when it is likely I will receive my order?

I'm not trying to queue jump in any way but I paid my deposit to secure a place at the front of the queue not in the middle.

Alastair
  

[weareblind]

Hi Andy,

Great to hear that the Dragon is finished. I can't wait to see it in "the flesh", so to speak.

Given that others are asking, where would I fit in the order list (Andrew Walliker)?

Cheers

Andrew

Hi Andrew, IMPATIENT one 

[Big Boris]

Hi Andy,

Great to hear that the Dragon is finished. I can't wait to see it in "the flesh", so to speak.

Given that others are asking, where would I fit in the order list (Andrew Walliker)?

Cheers

Andrew

59th

WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
Got to say I'm very disappointed not to have been given priorty, since I must have been one of the first to pay a deposit within 24 hours of you announcing the dragon, almost two years ago. I know i did not pay the full amount but you have got to admit this dragged on so long and there was a lot going on with your money situation and having to move but that must have made others worry aswell as myself that the whole endeavour would come to a bad end.
I love the items you make, thats why I have so many of them (80+ models), thats why when you first told us about the dragon I put my hand in my pocket right away for the deposit. That should have been enough to have secured a place at the front of the queue. I would remind you it was only in the last few weeks you said first fully paid would receive priority.
I would also remind you that when you took my deposit nearly two years ago you inferred completion would be in a couple of months and nothing was said about my deposit being non-refundable, but now it appears the goal posts have been moved.
I don't want a refund I want the dragon, thats why I've waited almost two years for it.
Do you have any idea when it is likely I will receive my order?

I'm not trying to queue jump in any way but I paid my deposit to secure a place at the front of the queue not in the middle.

Alastair
 

Alastair, I can't think of a fairer system.

Is it fair to let one person pay £30 and then the rest whenever they like and jump the queue, when another person pays £30 the day after them and the remaining £70 quite a long time before them? Is it fair that some of the latest people have paid £200 and not jumped the queue to ahead of you? Is it fair that one chap missed out on the £100 price by six hours? Is it fair that I'm keeping my promise to give you and the other people the Dragon at £100 even though it turns out I don't make any profit on it after all and it's a pretty poor business decision?

64th isn't too bad, assuming that Ian is able to produce the 10 to 20 dragons a week he's aiming for, once the production line starts going your dragon should follow on only 4 weeks or so after the first batch arrives here at the workshop. I'll give you all a better idea once Ian does.

Please know that I fully appreciate your collecting my models, by the way and the support you've given me over the years. I pay attention to who orders from me a lot.

[Big Boris]

PS There are now 159 Dragons in the queue, so you're not even in the middle.

[Balgin Stondraeg]

PS There are now 159 Dragons in the queue, so you're not even in the middle.

Andy, I don't mind being shunted towards the back of the queue a bit to miss the Christmas post if there's anyone impatient behind me but I suspect I'm near the back anyway. Just thought I'd tell you.

[Big Boris]

Unfortunately it rather looks like everyone will miss the Christmas post. I haven't had any test castings yet...

[weareblind]

PS There are now 159 Dragons in the queue, so you're not even in the middle.

Andy, I don't mind being shunted towards the back of the queue a bit to miss the Christmas post if there's anyone impatient behind me but I suspect I'm near the back anyway. Just thought I'd tell you.

[Vermis]

Bite my tongue, bite my tongue.

For once I'm sorry this place isn't Frothers.

[DRAGON]

  my thoughts exactly............ 

[Vermis]

Got to say I'm very disappointed not to have been given priorty

I paid my deposit to secure a place at the front of the queue not in the middle.

I'll just say I paid my deposit to secure a dragon, not a place behind a velvet rope.

[DRAGON]

I tried bugging Andy for the last 2 years and that didn't work .......

[weareblind]

C'mon guys, Alastair is a client like the others. So, I could be with you, and I'm with you, but he spoke with calm a point of view. Not always MY clients are so polite!

[beefcake]

and WITHOUT PREJUDICE, if you don't air your viewpoints nothing gets done. Easy for me to say though as I have no stakes in this.

[Vermis]

he spoke with calm a point of view. Not always MY clients are so polite!

He didn't use any four-letter words or multiple exclamation marks, if that's what you mean.  But he's got a real badly-founded and jumped-up sense of entitlement.  He says that it was only in the last few weeks that first fully paid would recieve priority.  What gave him the idea that it was otherwise?  Was there a queue to be at the head of, two years ago?
I know people paid good money a good while ago, expecting service, but this ain't no shoeshine stall.  We all knew it was going to take some time to finish, back when Andy started taking deposits, and personally I would've been surprised if there were no delays or complications on a project this large and detailed.  I paid my first deposit back then, too.  I don't know where I am in the queue, and I don't care.  After watching Andy put his livelihood at risk, working on it for two years and paying part of it out of his own pocket to honour the contract, I figure I don't need any more special treatment heaped on top; especially not the type that doesn't mean very much.  I'm looking forward to receive my copy, but my life doesn't revolve around it.  I can wait at least another measly month.  I don't need to yell 'first!' like this is a youtube comments list.

and WITHOUT PREJUDICE

"No offence, but..."

And what exactly 'got done'?

[agentmolar]

"Without prejudice" :When you want to tear bollocks off someone and yet don't want to have it admissible in court.

Private messages exist for a reason.  

[weareblind]

he spoke with calm a point of view. Not always MY clients are so polite!

He didn't use any four-letter words or multiple exclamation marks, if that's what you mean.

No, I mean that a client who proposes a question in a civil manner must be listened to. Simply. You may or not agree with him, and I don't agree (neither I know my queue position), but IMHO he deserves a complete and quiet answer. That's Andy gave, in the way of the perfect commercial businessman 

[DRAGON]

Well I thought the terms were made clear from the start and Andy kept us well informed progress wise. Seems a bit late to throw a public strop when a PM would have sufficed 

[greenstuff_gav]

Ian is able to produce the 10 to 20 dragons a week he's aiming for

with prejudice... this makes me sad 
but i only just forked up the remaining cash (thanks to selling a Warmachine Army!) and so will have to wait (im)patiently; I'm British, I Know How To Queue

on a side note, save hunting through the thread, whatever happened to The Knight?

[freakinacage]

I'll just say I paid my deposit to secure a dragon, not a place behind a velvet rope.

hang on, so he's giving away a rope with the dragon? do we have to pay extra? i like the idea of having a rope made of velvet but tbh i wouldn't be prepared to pay extra for one...

[DRAGON]

  Yay free velvet rope !