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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #375 on: August 22, 2009, 01:50:55 PM »
to be honest when i see it propped up on flagstones like that my 1st thought was " whos nicked the wheels?"
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #376 on: August 22, 2009, 04:13:43 PM »
What on Earth is that huge fing behind Azhag?  It doesn't help the effect that he's too big for the Wyvern.  And the puppet hanging from it is way too overwrought as a piece of symbolism.  :lol:

I don't get the relevance of the little wooden mannequin at all, has to be said. Just don't see a GW-fluff orc bothering with that. The huge fing is apparently a forearm and wing from a previous wyvern?

to be honest when i see it propped up on flagstones like that my 1st thought was " whos nicked the wheels?"

Yes, there is little point in those rocks being there as far as I can tell - it falls under my 'Theory of Cool Cliches' which is that every part of a mdoel must relate to every other part of a model - in this case, if there are rocks being used for the model to stand on then they should affect the way the model stands on them in order to tie them into the drama of the scene. This wyvern could easily stand flat on the base if you take the rocks away, therefore they are unnecessary. They aren't altering the aspect of the model. Just making it a little higher off the ground and thus less balanced. This particular area of the Theory is referred to as the Ryker Stance Problem. Star Trek fans will know what I'm referring to when I suggest that Mr Data occasionally had to shower to get the smell of Will Ryker's groin out of his hair. Ryker's preferred pose being the One-Foot-On-The-Monitor/Groin-In-The-Navigator's-Face Special. I have previously used this pose on Vampire Lord Von Blutgericht and the Dwarf Inventor, to a slightly lesser degree than Ryker used to practise it.

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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #377 on: August 22, 2009, 05:15:24 PM »
to be honest when i see it propped up on flagstones like that my 1st thought was " whos nicked the wheels?"
I thought it was wearing boots.................. :lol:
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #378 on: August 22, 2009, 07:53:21 PM »
I don't get the relevance of the little wooden mannequin at all, has to be said. Just don't see a GW-fluff orc bothering with that.

See the Crown of Sorcery he wears?  It's basically doing a 'One Ring' job on him.  Especially since it was made by WHFB's answer to Sauron. ;)  More stuff here.

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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #379 on: August 23, 2009, 04:13:07 PM »
I have just realized there's a new emoticon: :yawn:

Has it been included so we can express our sentiments about Azhag and his wyvern? :twisted:
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #380 on: August 27, 2009, 05:43:48 PM »
Those of you following me on Twitter will already have seen this, but:

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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #381 on: August 27, 2009, 05:44:31 PM »
I gave up on doing them over wire as it was even more fiddly and annoying than the other way.

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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #382 on: August 27, 2009, 10:50:00 PM »
 :lmao: Now I understand why you were so keen to ditch the double row of spines!

...it'll be worth all the pain, he's looking very impressive.  :yup:
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #383 on: August 27, 2009, 11:09:52 PM »
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/common/xLargeProductImage.jsp?mWidth=873px&mURL=/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m420179a_99110209208_Azhag1_873x627.jpg&mAlt=Azhag+the+Slaughterer&mHeight=627px
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Meh!  move along.....nothing to see here....move along......  :tsk: :tsk:

(not even worth the thread-space it's taking up...)

BUT....that chunk of loveliness (the dragon, not Andy :P ) is well worth air-time!!  He's looking sooooo fine, I wanna make him mine!!  :boing: :lalala:
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #384 on: August 28, 2009, 07:49:09 AM »
This is the best dragon i ever seen! :shock:
Hope I'll find an opportunity to buy this awesome sculpture in my collection.
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #385 on: August 29, 2009, 02:05:31 AM »

I can't wait until I'm at the point where I can start adding skullz to the dragon for the variants! muahahahaha
Variants?!?!  How does one pre-order said variant???
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #386 on: August 29, 2009, 02:30:00 AM »

I can't wait until I'm at the point where I can start adding skullz to the dragon for the variants! muahahahaha
Variants?!?!  How does one pre-order said variant???

more to the point if you put skullz on that then i'm sending the boys with the pick axe handles round.
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #387 on: August 29, 2009, 04:35:03 AM »
True, no skullz.  But variants are fun.  mostly.....
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #388 on: September 03, 2009, 02:00:22 AM »
Perfect dragon. He looks like he is sitting in your lap.  :applause:

May I ask how you plan to cast him up? Only saying because those wires in the dorsal fin scales will help fill them if in resin. The gas in resin can case those tiny parts to be trouble some no matter what you try. Just a heads up that might save you time.

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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #389 on: September 05, 2009, 09:36:54 PM »
@ HT, I was under the impression that the dragon was going to be all metal...I could be wrong though.

I haven't said much so far in this thread but I'd like to say that I am extremely impressed by the way the proportions of the dragon give it the look of having enough strength to lift it's weight...something a lot of dragon sculpts fail to deliver.

I like the double spike layout of the spine...it really goes with the crocodilian look of the scales.

Keep up the good work Andy...it can't be much longer now (then you can relax a bit...this sculpt must be driving you mad!).
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #390 on: September 05, 2009, 11:51:29 PM »

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@ HT, I was under the impression that the dragon was going to be all metal...I could be wrong though.

I haven't said much so far in this thread but I'd like to say that I am extremely impressed by the way the proportions of the dragon give it the look of having enough strength to lift it's weight...something a lot of dragon sculpts fail to deliver.

I like the double spike layout of the spine...it really goes with the crocodilian look of the scales.

Keep up the good work Andy...it can't be much longer now (then you can relax a bit...this sculpt must be driving you mad!).

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Er, yes. It is, a bit.

It definitely isn't going to be all metal, no moulds big enough for one thing, weight and cost of it would be prohibitive. It's just too big!

The spikes on the neck have now been changed for a slightly different dual spike system, keeping a slightly crocodilian feel but also a little more dragon-y.  Need to figure out some stuiff to do with how the scales  and spines would move apart and/or spread out (or not) with the turning of the neck as the skin stretches and compresses. Will probably just ignore it and hope no-one else as pedantic as me complains.

(Those of you following me on Twitter will also already know I've added a broken looking tree trunk to the main rock base for the dragon to hold onto with one of it's forelimbs.)

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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #391 on: September 06, 2009, 10:39:11 AM »
Can we have a picture please ? :angel:
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #392 on: September 06, 2009, 05:04:31 PM »
Need to figure out some stuiff to do with how the scales  and spines would move apart and/or spread out (or not) with the turning of the neck as the skin stretches and compresses.

http://www.animaldanger.com/images/crocodile.jpg
http://www.treklens.com/gallery/Africa/Zambia/photo44676.htm
http://www.solarnavigator.net/animal_kingdom/animal_images/Crocodile_nile_africa.jpg

I think you can pretty much do that, yeah.  :)  If you were still worried about it, maybe have the scales in front slightly overlap the scale behind, on the compressed areas; and have a slightly larger gap between scales, on the stretched areas.  Very slightly. ;)
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #393 on: September 16, 2009, 01:14:32 PM »
Oh a quick question.

with the third deposit , what do i click for the postage? Do I click rest of the world for australia? or do i click the 1st and 2nd Deposits only ( even though its the third? )

No issues here, just dont want to muck up the system.

I wouldnt mind putting in my final payment and await the goodness.
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #394 on: September 16, 2009, 01:33:30 PM »
I'll be invoicing pre-ordery people for the postage separately anyway,.as I have no idea what it will amount to in weight etc, but if you want to choose Signed For shipping to Australia, that would probably be best - I won't be sending this lot out without insured shipping of some sort to anyone...
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #395 on: September 16, 2009, 02:33:27 PM »
no worries, will do
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #396 on: September 16, 2009, 07:27:37 PM »
Reading this we completely forgot that we could/should be adding to our deposit. Sorry Andy - I know every little helps :oops:  We'll do another double deposit for our two beasties at the end of the month. Hopefully it will go towards keeping the wheels turning at Heresy-Towers :smile:
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #397 on: September 16, 2009, 08:48:09 PM »
I kinda forgot about this too - I will put the second payment down at the end of the month.  :oops:

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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #398 on: September 17, 2009, 12:13:10 PM »
Final payment made....... *rubs hands in anticipation*
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Re: The 1st ever Heresy dragon. A big one. (WIP) [UPDATED July 29th 09]
« Reply #399 on: September 17, 2009, 04:23:09 PM »
Bit confused with all this talk of extra payments :blink: Thought you just put down your 30 deposit and paid the rest when the dragon was finished...?

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