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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1650 on: September 18, 2013, 12:15:13 PM »
Looks good and heavy. What sort of material are you using to make the mould? (And how much does it cost) Are those chunks previous bad moulds? Glad to see things moving along nicely.

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1651 on: September 18, 2013, 12:17:03 PM »
Thanks for sharing those pics, ain't Lego grand!

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1652 on: September 18, 2013, 12:56:56 PM »
Using a resin called Transil 20 on this, as it has high tear strength. Not cheap. Here's a video on youtube of me opening that mould.
http://youtu.be/5hqncIaztFY

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1653 on: September 18, 2013, 12:57:48 PM »
The darker chunks are the previous mould, cut up and used to bulk this one out. Should have made the chunks smaller, apparently. I've been recommended to buy a meat grinder for the purpose...

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1654 on: September 18, 2013, 01:12:26 PM »
Part 2 of the thrilling action series. Check out the CGI and wire-fu!*
http://youtu.be/WLeYSgVBDk4

*It was cut out due to adult content and time

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1655 on: September 18, 2013, 01:12:58 PM »
My thumb is bleeding and itching after that, by the way. Damned dragon spines!

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1656 on: September 18, 2013, 02:15:18 PM »
I'm loving the videos :mrgreen:.

I hope you realise how much everyone is WILLING this to work... If only we all had psychic powers this would be sorted in an instant :D.

(I'm not in the dragon queue and I am getting excited about the possibility of lots of dragons being sent out for people to paint :mrgreen:).
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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1657 on: September 18, 2013, 02:15:47 PM »
I really hope, for all involved, but especially for Andy's continuous struggle, that we're hitting the final stretch in the saga of the Dragon!

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1658 on: September 18, 2013, 09:10:16 PM »
Interesting videos. That much mould must have cost a pretty penny. Hopefully clean up wasn't too arduous.

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1659 on: September 19, 2013, 10:06:44 PM »
(I'm not in the dragon queue and I am getting excited about the possibility of lots of dragons being sent out for people to paint :mrgreen:).
:oops: mine is getting there but hobby enthusiasm has waned so far this year..........
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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1660 on: October 25, 2013, 01:30:48 PM »
Hoping to turn my attentions back to the Dragon Torso Problem this weekend, if i can finish a couple of sculpts to raise some cash to cover things first. Will update if anything positive happens...

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1661 on: October 25, 2013, 07:22:26 PM »
I'm reading not so often the forum, and I apologize in advance, but at what number is the big list of Dragons arrived?
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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1662 on: October 25, 2013, 11:57:04 PM »
Still on 51. Still making moulds. :(

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1663 on: October 26, 2013, 01:23:43 PM »
Thanks Andy. Hold it by the tail!
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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1664 on: November 26, 2013, 10:46:55 PM »
Hey Andy!

hows it going? any news on the molds?

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1665 on: November 27, 2013, 10:07:40 AM »
Honestly? Because I just wasted 200 on the rubber for the mould for the torso only for it to not work - impossible to get the torso out without snapping bits off, thus wasting the whole cast - I've been too nervous to repeat the failure with the last remining tub of rubber that I have. Added on to that a complete and utter lack of sales coming in because all the time I've spent dealing with dragon problems over the last few years has meant I haven't made enough new figures to keep the sales coming in (plus Kickstarter stealing all wargamers' money) so I find myself in a position where I am desperately trying to find the money to pay rent. As much as I need to get the Dragon sorted out, if I don't find a short term solution to the lack of money, I'm going to have to go bankrupt and then nobody gets any dragons at all, so there's a necessary delay in proceedings. If I could magic twelve grand out of nowhere, I could pay Antenociti's Workshop to cast all the remaining dragons, and not have to worry abotu it again, but the only way I can think to do that is to run a kickstarter for plastic skeletons and make sure I take twelve grand over the costs of the moulds, sprues, shipping, VAT, HMRC tax and KS fees. So that's my plan B right now.
Plan A is still to get this bloody torso mould working - I was supposed to go to Antenociti's last week, he's asked to have a go at moulding it as he has a similar sized project planned and wants to work out a few things in terms of practicality, resins, etc, thus helping me out and him out at the same time. If he can get the mould working, I can copy it for future moulds. Once this particular hurdle is out of the way, it's THE hump in the current proceedings, the rest should be straightforward and I just have to find another grand to get enough rubber and resin in to get the first few self-cast dragons out - in theory. Things are, like I say, tough. I haven't paid myself or my wife since April, we've been living off the proceeds of the house sale, which is all gone as of December.

This being me and my current run of luck, the day that I set off to get to Jed at Antenociti, my car immediately broke down and is at the moment in the  garage whilst mechanics scratch their heads and try to work out what the hell is wrong with it (it's day two, and nothing they've tried has worked yet)
So as soon as that's fixed, and hopefully it will be a bill that i can fit on my personal credit card and just pay the interest on, I can get over to AW and see what an expert can do with it. Just waiting to hear from the garage. I will update once I've been over to Jed's and he's had a go at moulding it. Might be  a week or two before he comes back to me, though.

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1666 on: November 28, 2013, 06:14:44 AM »
Ow.

Sounds like you need to get some models out to get cash flowing again.

Maybe another gang, to do battle with the Trench Coat gang? Kickstarter, or something? (Not that I suspect that you are a Delaque sympathizer, or anything....)

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1667 on: November 28, 2013, 04:59:05 PM »
And so the wait continues. Oh well, hopefully in a few weeks I'll get to go to the cinema and see a new dragon with the same "3d glasses" they forced me to buy with the cinema ticket last year. Oh yes, I saved them :).
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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1668 on: November 28, 2013, 09:50:04 PM »
Hope your luck changes, Andy.

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1669 on: November 30, 2013, 06:23:17 PM »
A strong hug Andy
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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1670 on: January 22, 2014, 10:03:26 AM »
Quick update: meeting up with someone next week who is a contract caster and wants to help out. Will be palming off the more difficult bits onto him and getting him to cast as many of those bits as I can afford to pay him for whilst I do the easier stuff eg arms etc at my end. I mainly need him to make the mould for the torso so that it definitely works rather than me wasting 100s of GBP on failed attempts, but I may as well get him to cast a few if it's not too much per piece as he's better set up for the process.

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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1671 on: January 22, 2014, 10:26:34 AM »
Mind you saying that I am severely tempted to cut the current torso assembly in half around the waist so that you have back half and front half. I might make things a lot easier all round (but does require a bit of work with the cutting and refitting...say two days, or the rest of this week)

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« Reply #1672 on: January 23, 2014, 08:16:15 PM »
Here's hoping the meeting turns out well.
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Re: Heresy Dragon Big Thread Of Doom
« Reply #1673 on: January 23, 2014, 09:18:16 PM »
It'll be great. I'm showing him how to make moulds for spincasting etc, and he'll advise me on some of these dragon bits.
However, I have just made things a lot easier on myself by cutting the huge torso piece in half around the waist, meaning smaller moulds etc and easier angles, so he should just have to confirm a few things about what I'm doing right or wrong, and we can chat about which pieces he might be able to provide more quickly than me at a price I can afford. I won't name him in case he's too busy to do anything right now - he has a lot of projects that people get him involved in that eat up his available time.

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« Reply #1674 on: January 25, 2014, 10:56:04 AM »
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